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Are they fenced in, how do you stop people just wandering all over them?

You can't, not entirely, but there are park rangers who generally patrol and keep an eye and monitor things and so on.

Er... is this a serious question? I don't want to be mean, but the trolls here lately have been really stubborn.

Assuming it's a sincere question, national parks are huge, it's not practical to fence them in. You cannot stop people from wandering all over them, really. There are usually trails and visitor centers and the majority of people stick to the most-visited, accessible areas and don't go much further. There are park rangers as someone else said, but even with the rangers, there's no real way to ensure that nobody wanders off. A lot of accidents and deaths occur in national parks, because people take risks or just have a case of bad luck, get lost, etc.

Honestly? Most National Park visitors don’t even think of going off main roads. A dirt road is a new and exciting “wilderness” experience for most of them. It’s common that they travel over ground for miles through wilderness nearly identical to their destination without noticing much about it, only getting excited about nature when they reach the park entrance. And many are prone to doing dangerously stupid things so it’s actually a good thing that they confine their ignorance to the parks where there are rangers keeping an eye out.

The visitors who are more environmentally aware are also more environmentally conscious and will stick to trails and designated campsites, have all the right permits, etc.

Sincerely,
Former NPS Ranger

But don't people have to pay to get in, and there are like special rules (no dogs, and that sort of thing), how do people just not ignore that and wander on? Sorry, I come from a very different country from America where people can't even manage to close farm gates behind them.

nayrt - They could, but it wouldn't be that easy. Entry is usually done by car, which is why there are gates and entrance fees and rules. You could enter it on foot far away from the entrance point, but that would likely be a challenging hike over difficult terrain with no roads and likely no trails so most people wouldn't attempt it.

+1 what you'd spend in effort and time to sneak in to a national park overland is more than the money is worth

Yeah. And never mind the money, it'd be more trouble than most people are prepared to put up with, period. The majority of visitors to any given national park will barely leave the paved roads and attractions with a handy parking lot. A lot of people who visit Yellowstone barely leave their car. There'd be no point trying to infiltrate a national park by finding a remote area and walking over the boundary. You'd likely have to trespass on private land to get to it, it might be densely forested, mountains, rivers or overgrown, possibly with bears and/or mountain lions and for what?

Even the people who like doing that sort of thing will likely just... drive in with their camping equipment, find a spot and hike without the need to sneak in anywhere.

AYRT
Most sites that fall under the National Parks System do not have entrance fees. And it’s only in the most popular places at the most popular times that the entrances are manned. I think Great Smoky Mountains National Park may be the only one that has a manned entrance and an entrance fee year round but I could be wrong.

As others mentioned, there’s no benefit to sneaking in and in most cases there’s no reason.

Not every site is a National Park; many are areas being preserved for national interest in history, nature, and culture. Those places outnumber the actual National Parks. They may be called National Historic Sites or National Scenic Areas. They don’t include National Forests, which are administered by the US Forest Service, which itself falls under the USDA (department of agriculture).

I must apologize thought for being so mean spirited in my original comment. I meant it more flippantly than mean. It’s a great thing that people go to national parks! And yes, they do things they shouldn’t because they don’t know better. And some do know better but don’t want to put in the effort to do the right thing, like use bear proof food storage. Someone knows someone who knew a guy who got right up to a moose/bear/bison and it was perfectly safe and harmless, so now the person who heard the story wants the same experience. And it isn’t safe. And it isn’t harmless because often those animals end up getting put down. My disdain for NPS visitors comes from those grievous behaviors that harm the wildlife and the ecosystem.

But most visitors are actually pretty great! They’re excited to be there, they want to learn about what they see around them, and they mostly do their best to do the right thing based on their frame of reference. Connecting people with the wilderness for the first time was honestly one of the most gratifying experiences I’ve had in my life. And there were many visitors who had more knowledge or experience than me and it was always a joy learning from them, too.

They're mostly in the middle of nowhere.

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