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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-07-19 05:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #6405 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6405 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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09. [WARNING for discussion of both real life and fictional rape/sexual assault]




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(Anonymous) 2024-07-20 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen people bring up this possibility, that adding the specifically social justice-y veneer to Madoc here was meant to be a secret dig at Gaiman. I think it's definitely a possibility. At the same time, I think it also is definitely a possibility that the writer was just trying to update a 90s character to how the same character would act in the 2020s. Since #MeToo, there's sadly been a lot of high-profile cases of progressive guys who use those politics to get women to sleep with them and who use progressive opinions as a smokescreen to mask their actual treatment of women. Abusers conforming to the social mores of the time and their social circles makes it harder for people to believe that they're hurting people in private and allows them to get away with it longer.

So a writer in the 2020s insisting on more diverse casting? That would absolutely be recognizable to a 2020s audience as a Type -- the kind of guy who has loud lefty opinions in public while secretly mistreating women behind closed doors. It's very in-line with things the audience would have seen before.

Heck, if the TV Sandman writers have any experience of organizing in lefty groups, almost all lefty groups I know have, like, that one sexual predator (at least) who uses their extreme dedication to the group and lefty ideology in order to convince young women to sleep with them (either by seeming like "one of the good ones" or just by directly pressuring women that not sleeping with them would be insufficiently revolutionary or whatever). While the writer(s) could easily have been subtweeting Neil Gaiman specifically, there is also sadly a huge number of other offenders out there that they could been thinking of when portraying Madoc that way.