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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-08-07 06:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #6424 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6424 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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(Anonymous) 2024-08-07 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Racists have sex (or enjoy porn of) with the race they hate all the time. It's a fetish.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-07 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
This is true, but I'm not quite comfortable with comparing someone hating their oppressor (even in a fictionalized context) to be on par with racists who jerk it to interracial fetish and whatnot.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
A totalizing hatred of all people who share immutable traits with your oppressors does become prejudice, however.

It's important to recall that Malcolm X changed his stance after he went to Mecca.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-07 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
While that's true enough, it doesn't sound like the self-insert character being the fetishized human is the kind of ship fic the writers are writing.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-07 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
It would just make it all more interesting! I mean, making him fall for a human and there being a tension on his ideals and the human he finds himself caring about, very fun. (I don't self-ship, I swear, never played the game, I just like robots.)

At least with him you can play around it, but I've seen people self-ship in a loving way with AM and had the same thought as yours. It doesn't bother me thought, cheers to them.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-07 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream AM? Or are we talking about a different AM?

... If it's that AM, fandom never ceases to astound me.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-07 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Yep, that AM. at least twice. I'll be honest, though, I'm pretty sure most self-shippers are self-aware and just having fun.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

as a self shipper, you are correct :)

(Anonymous) 2024-08-07 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
... Overwatch characters have personality?
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2024-08-07 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
A very thin veneer of one but yes.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
enough to run with, baby!
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2024-08-07 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
In the end, Malcolm X wasn’t Malcolm X, like how Nietzsche didn’t live up to the writings of Nietzsche. He wasn’t a symbol, he was a human being who felt self-conflict and even changed his mind on some things.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-07 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I think ur right, and also ty for puting into words why I dislike dvatra haha.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think I agree with you about D.Vattra, I'm biased for liking the ship haha, but I've never seen anyone erase her personality for the ship like most ships that are hidden self-insert, actually people seen to really enjoy to play on their differences, so I don't see how it's a thin veneered self-insert outside from assuming it is because he is a popular character on that camp.

It still ignores this part of his, I'll give you that, but honestly, there are ships that are way worse in the OOC field. Sorry, just wanted to go for its defense. >.>

(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I don't go here, but I am pretty sure that if I did go here I would think you were wrong.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
It's been a while since I've been in the OW fandom, but back in my self insert OW days, and I'm sure today, turning what he hates into something more nuanced is grade A prime wagyu beef for a fic writer.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)

Should I copy my comment from 02 intended for 03, but i tab failed or just assume it's been seen by now? How many people read all the secret comment threads and how many just read the ones they think would be juicy?

... I can't figure out what RME means in this context, other than probably some kind of expression of rage.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see the appeal, enemies to lovers is a very popular trope. Maybe Ramattra never would, but creating a situation in which he does just makes the ship spicier. Whether the fic authors can make it believable is a different thing, of course.