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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-08-07 06:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #6424 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6424 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2024-08-07 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
look I have a favourite f/f ship in my little fandom. It supported by _anything_ in canon? No, one of them already has a gf they love, the other is widely read as ace (with far more in-canon support than my preferred ship).
And sometimes I see posts from people putting 'evidence' together and I'm like, nooo we don't need to do that! They're just cute girls, I wanna read about them kissing, I know it's not real! I don't even want it to be canon

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(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Hell, I'll happily ship someone with both their canon love interest AND in a non-canon pairing with some other character I like. Totally fine if people have their preferences betweeen canon or non-canon, of course, but I've just never understood why some people always seem to act like it has to be an "either/or" scenario.

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(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, but unfortunately there are a lot of people into shipping who treat the whole thing like sports teams and are therefore obsessed with ‘winning’ with canonisation in order to shove it into the faces of other fans and be ‘right’.

I have canon ships and fanon ships, both are fun! Sometimes I think it’d be cool if some of my fanon ships were canon but my enjoyment of them doesn’t hinge on this because I don’t view people shipping a different ship as ‘the rival team’, we’re all here to have fun.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)

Also, if people understood the concept of "look, fan works are their own thing, not an argument that canon should go in a specific direction".

I saw a post on tumblr a bit ago about how one of the benefits of fan works is that they can explore areas that would have been a terrible idea for canon to try (e.g. what if that plot-important character death hadn't happened). Lots of pairings fit perfectly into that territory.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
So many of the bad things about fandom this decade are down to people believing that having a ship means that you must want it to be canon and have a "happy ever after" ending, and launch a scorched-earth campaign to force the writers to do so.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I find Ursula K. LeGuin’s books boring as fuck, so that might be a sign I feel like you do.

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2024-08-08 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Some people fail at writing believable good guys because their idea of good is too narrow. A good guy never smokes cigarettes. A good guy never has premarital sex. You end up with this incredibly narrow template where every good guy has the same life experiences and responds in the same way to the same situation.

“Unforgivable” is also subjective. I’ve seen repentant characters who commited sex crimes, war crimes, even genocide. I’m a Utilitarian (something Le Guin hated), and I don’t believe in free will, so I don’t pass judgment if someone got out of the environment or way of life in which they did horrible things.

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(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Eh. Every writer has their weaknesses as well as their strengths. That's not being a hack, it's being human.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
I don't mind good characters doing good, BUT I need them to be flawed in some way that actually has detrimental effects. My absolute favorite writer is excellent at writing messy characters - even the characters who are genuinely good are still messy and flawed and that's exactly what makes them interesting.

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(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
I generally agree with what Le Guin is saying, but I also feel like some writers have a tendency to go, "Evil is banal and pain is boring," and then just stop there. I have a very limited amount of appreciation for that kind of thing, personally. My favorite stories are the ones that manage to convey the banality of evil and the terrible boredom of pain, while also conveying things like beauty, tenderness, and compassion with the same nuance and complexity.

And there are also some really marvelous stories that don't aim for quite that same level of emotional realism, and IMO that's completely fine. There's room for all sorts of fiction in the world, and at the end of the day I think just about every approach has the capacity to be executed well.

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(Anonymous) 2024-08-07 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
What interests me about the ship is the ambiguity, since I agree to an extent with your interpretation. I feel both are manipulating one another and both would never put their feelings above their goals. That said, I don't think that L saying Light is his friend to throw him off means that it is completely dishonest. I think they were able to understand how each other think and engage with one another on a level that they've rarely experienced, and for someone so withdrawn and unique as L, I can believe that an enemy he had to engage so closely is something he could relate to friendship. I don't see that as going against the text, nor do I see homoerotic readings as incompatible with the idea that they are ultimately deceiving one another. I do agree a lot of shipping is OOC and dampens down their ambitions and animosity in favor of exploring the ship, to an extent that I don't love a lot of fic for them despite it being a ship I love. Just my two cents as a shipper, haha.

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(Anonymous) 2024-08-08 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I completely agree! he was adorable!

(Anonymous) 2024-08-07 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh.

I couldn't say myself, I don't really know either of them personally.

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Racists have sex (or enjoy porn of) with the race they hate all the time. It's a fetish.

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(Anonymous) 2024-08-07 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure if you're referring to redemption arcs, badly done redemption arcs, or just terrible events that happen to characters and make them reflect on life (and I guess any misdeeds, to whatever degree).

But I would say this kind of "180," as you put it, can work for specific characters whose original personalities were something like a "Care Bear who makes tea," but an event in canon turned them bad/bitter/evil or forced them into a situation where they had to perform a certain way for survival.

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[personal profile] fscom 2024-08-07 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
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[Ant-man and the Wasp]

(Anonymous) 2024-08-07 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that's what made them a really great character. I think the best villains are the ones we can understand how they got where they are.

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Who died? Anyone home?

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