[ SECRET POST #6438 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6438 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Takehito Koyasu (voice actor)]



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[sailor moon, ouran high-school club]



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Comments

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[(Anonymous)]

What I just don't like about a lot of this discussion is how a lot of fans of the NB headcanons insist on them being textual when in reality - especially in the case of non-English media - they wilfully misinterpret vague translations of what an author has allegedly said about a character when in most cases, it's not anywhere near as clear-cut as they pretend.

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[ariakas]

It's very interesting as well that in both cases people in this thread are saying that "the creator" confirmed these characters to be nonbinary, but near as I can tell this isn't true. At least for Haruka, as that is a fandom I follow quite closely: it's not the creator, nor is it the Haruka who says this, but a different character entirely (albeit one who is very close to Haruka). And the line being referred to can be translated in a number of ways: at its most literal, Haruka is confirmed to be intersex; less literally, it just means that Haruka is both masculine and feminine (i.e., it says Haruka has "the strengths/qualities of" both genders), not that Haruka is both a man and a woman.

What Takeuchi (the creator) has said is that "only women can be Sailor (Guardians)". Since Haruka is a Guardian, Haruka is confirmed to be a woman, or at least to identify as such to some extent (not to disclude the possibility that she/he is bigender).

I don't follow Ouran as much, but I do remember the line that Haruhi doesn't care/think much about gender. To call this "confirmation" that Haruhi is nonbinary is a huge stretch; many cis people don't care or think much about gender. Nor have I ever seen any confirmation from the creator - this appears to be something people made up on the internet.

That said! I have no issues with either character being thought of/headcanoned as nonbinary. (As I said in a comment above, I actually think Haruka as bigender is a fair and accurate reading of manga!Haruka, while it's pretty clear that 90s anime!Haruka was intended to be a butch lesbian.) And that's cool! But the whole "it's word of god"/"has been confirmed" thing appears to be a straight up lie. There's no source for it whatsoever.