[ SECRET POST #6442 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6442 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Tell me you don't know what queerbaiting is without telling me don't know what queerbaiting is. Deadpool has been canonically pansexual since the 90s.

Also, in case you're confused: shiptease =/= queerbait

[erinptah]

Not OP, but they didn't say "I think it was queerbaiting," they said "I'm surprised it's not being accused of queerbaiting."

Fandom has been misusing the word for years to mean "in a series with openly canon queer characters, my specific ship didn't get together." (Maybe the fact that it isn't happening so much with D&W means the trend is dying off?? We can only hope.)

[(Anonymous)]

"Fandom has been misusing the word for years to mean "in a series with openly canon queer characters, my specific ship didn't get together."

Where has this been happening? The only big ones I've seen are "in a series with queer minor characters but where the character I ship is canonically straight, they didn't magically turn gay so it's queerbaiting" isn't quite the same as the main character being queer to begin with.

[(Anonymous)]

It happens literally all the time, what do you mean.

[(Anonymous)]

All the big fandoms I can think of that had major queerbaiting whiners were ones like SPN or TW where the characters were not queer and people wanted them to be, vs. fandoms where the main characters are canon openly queer but get called queerbaiting for being the wrong ships.

If it's that commonplace for queer characters to be called queerbaiting for being both A) canon openly queer but B) in the wrong queer ships, it should be really easy to give examples of where this behavior is prevalent. I'm genuinely curious to know because I have never seen it.

[(Anonymous)]

Where is this happening? I’ve never seen it, only fans complaining that their slash ship of two straight characters didn’t become canon.

[(Anonymous)]

9-1-1

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't go there but from what I understand the Voltron fandom had this problem.

[(Anonymous)]

DA
In the comment secret OP was adamant that it was queerbaiting and Deadpool is 100% straight.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm also curious where this has been happening, I've never seen a fandom where the main/POV character is canonically queer that has been accused of queerbaiting (what's there to bait, then?).

[erinptah]

I didn't say it had to be "the main/POV character", just that the series has canon queer characters in general.

I searched for the word "queerbaiting" on Tumblr, and found all these complaints in about 2 minutes: Loki/Mobius, Dean/Castiel, Loki/Mobius and Sam/Bucky, Kara/Lena, Charles/Erik, Prentiss/women in general?, John/Sherlock, this is a whole tag for Keith/Lance.

It also happened with Crowley/Aziraphale, Catra/Adora, and Luz/Amity before each of those couples actually kissed on-screen. The complaint posts would be older and take more digging to find, so I'll leave those for other people to look for if you really want to.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I know what you're talking about, hell even without having actual canon queer characters in a show fandom has been misusing the term queerbait for years.

The word shippy needs to come back in place of 'subtext' because the latter implies some form of intent from the writers, while the former is strictly putting the onus on fandom for finding a dynamic fun enough to ship, which is what happens 9/10. But because a bizarre number of fandom folk treat shipping like sports teams they like to use subtext because it makes their personal ship-vibing seem more legit instead of the personal preference it is.

[erinptah]

Hear hear.

Just getting fandom-at-large to accept "shipping is not a contest, and your fic is not more- or less-valid based on how closely it follows canon" would solve so many problems.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, people need to learn that subtext doesn't need to be intentional. That's not an intended implication of that word and used to not be taken as one. People would talk about subtext where it was understood that it wasn't intentional. I remember when people talked about subtext between Roy and Ed in Fullmetal Alchemist. None of us thought it was meant to be there, nonshippers disagreed that it even existed, and that was okay!

[(Anonymous)]

And Wolverine is Bisexual but they almost always conveniently forget THAT part

[(Anonymous)]

Can you describe what queerbaiting is OP?

[(Anonymous)]

We never see Deadpool have sex with someone who isn't a woman. We never meet an ex who isn't a woman. Every time he mentions attraction to men it could easily by written off as a joke.

Heck, it could be written off as a homophobic joke.

I think Ryan Reynolds is uncomfortable going there, as a straight guy.

[(Anonymous)]

Every time he mentions sex with anyone it is written off as a joke, even with Vanessa who he canonically hooks up with. Please tell me more about your bi and pan erasure though, seeing as how denying someone is pan or bi because they hook up with someone who is the opposite sex. Because that is something we bi people never, ever, get tired of hearing about. /s

[(Anonymous)]

I just wish it was more explicit. I saw the film with my conservative friend and she didn't understand that Wade is attracted to Logan. She thought he was just joking. And I think a lot of the conservative people who love the film think the same.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with you, anon.
Guys in my high school in late 90s had more explicit jokes. It's not bi or pan erasure to expect representation not easily erased by translation

[(Anonymous)]

Did we all miss the tone Deadpool uses when he says "Oh my god" after Logan tells him to STFU?

Wade totally got hard at that.

[(Anonymous)]

You’re the only one because everyone else understands that Deadpool is pan and always has been.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you think the conservative people who saw the film understand that though? They need to have it spelled out for them.

[(Anonymous)]

DA
That's because they don't WANT to understand and don't actually know the character, apparently.