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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-08-30 06:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #6447 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6447 ⌋

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02. [SPOILERS for Batman: Caped Crusader]




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03. [SPOILERS for Ghost: Rite Here Rite Now]




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04. [SPOILERS for The Umbrella Academy season 4]




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05. [WARNING for discussion of abuse]




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07. [WARNING for discussion of non-con/dub-con]
















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(Anonymous) 2024-08-30 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm someone who loves to complain about things but oh my god do I agree with you OP. There's perfectly well thought out concrit, and then there's the inane nitpicking that's about someone 1. not understanding the plot, 2. not paying attention to the plot, 3. a story beat that was never going to happen, never hinted at happening, not happening, 4. someone's pet never-going-to-happen ship not happening or 5. all of the above.

And it's as you said: so fucking draining. I think it's one thing to complain to like-minded friends or in fandom spaces, it's entirely another to take that heat to the actors/creators and act like spoiled toddlers. I don't know how we got here but I hate it.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2024-08-30 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I love a good concrit/meta post, I'll even indulge venting even if it's irrational sometimes.

But the lack of fourth wall meaning that people run to the creators and make it everyone else's problem that their ship isn't canon (or in some cases, ignore the evidence and INSIST it's canon because of some ambiguous or delusional nonsense, while still roping in the creators) is the bit that is the fun suck for me.

I know we always had people insisting their ship or headcanon was real causing fights, but it's the fact that people can now screenshot what Costumer A is liking on Instagram and say "SEE IT'S CANON!" as though anyone else cares and Costumer A wasn't just liking something complimentary about their work.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-30 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
100%

I even feel it's perfectly valid to have stupid, petty dislikes that kinda ruin a show for someone, that's okay! But taking that heat to the people involved is not, but people do, and it's not just kids I see people my own goddamn age doing this as if it's not harassing a very real person because it's all behind a screen. I don't know where people got it into their heads that they can act this way and frankly I wish more creators/actors were allowed to tell these people to fuck off.

Oh gosh, trying to determine anything via cast/crew likes or even posts on social media is ridiculous to me, they're just posting something they worked on or a thing they found funny, it is very rare that you can glean or divine anything from that because these folks aren't allowed to post anything that could be a spoiler yanno?

Often I sincerely wish for the 4th wall back.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-30 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Because an awful lot of people, all the way up to the highest positions in the land, have turned out to be entitled shitty (wo)manchildren?

(Anonymous) 2024-08-31 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
There's also a point where it stops being fun in fandom, around other fans. I'll put up with a fair amount of good-natured griping, and even the really acrimonious stuff if the person manages to be funny about how they're emoting, but most of what I want from fandom isn't "I liked canon" or "I didn't," but depth and specificity. I go looking for other people who are familiar with the thing because invariably they interpreted it somewhat differently than I did and the story looks different and interesting through their eyes in a way that I wouldn't have access to, if I didn't go looking for the community. Going and pulling the creator's sleeves to lament what they did or didn't write is nearly always a douche move. But if the thing everyone else seems to want to do in a fandom is talk about how much it sucks ... it's hard to keep the playfulness and the creativity going in community. I think people revert back to loving the thing and putting out what they make for it, as if talking weren't an option, or move to a fandom that actually seems congruent with its subject.