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⌈ Secret Post #6448 ⌋

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I wish people would learn that sometimes bad people can make good art. Or that someone turning out to be a terrible person in one regard can still make art that resonates with people in others.

I hate that current (or maybe I just see it more often now) trend of an actor/musician/writer turning out to have done something terrible or have terrible opinions (or heck, just wrote things decades ago that are now understood to be bad) and people fine combing their works, looking for evidence that everyone clearly always should have known - especially when they imply that the fans maaaaybe condone the thing the creator of their show/movie/book did/said and always have and WHY haven't they loudly denounced their love for the thing yet?

Brought to you by the latest post I've seen going "Instead of Gaiman, who really was totally always problematic if you all were actually looking properly, you should rather read Ursula K. Le Guin/Diana Wynne Jones/*insert more authors here*" and then people in the comments ALSO going "WELL ACTUALLY, this author used this slur in this one book they wrote 40 years ago!"

Can't we give each other some grace? Is the urge to feel superior so great?

I do agree with this. But on the other hand, for me at least, I'm not comfortable giving money to someone who is really terrible. Someone who is dead, I'll happily watch. But if the person is still living and genuinely a terrible person, I'm probably not going to watch or read their stuff.

OP

Oh, no that's not what I meant!
My problem is more with people who are gloating about always having known that someone was terrible or how the thing was always problematic and how did you not see it - usually by quoting something from the book/music/movie etc (completely forgetting that something that a character says/does, does NOT reflect on the author the slightest or means that they condone it irl).

Sometimes bad people make good art = you can't tell they're terrible by looking at the art, so people couldn't have ~always known.

(I'm ESL and Idk if I'm explaining what I meant right. x_x)

nayrt

It's wild how you will always find the "signs" in retrospect.

But agreed. I'm not a fan of judging people by their creations either. We fucking hate it when people do it to us as fanfic authors, so I don't understand doing it to other folks, professional or not. Even if they're guilty of one shitty thing. (Mind you, I probably couldn't look at the person the same way, but I wouldn't make assumptions about everything else in their life.)

DA

But this seems ridiculous to me. I'm not running a virtue background check on my mechanic, or my local coffeeshop staff, or any of a zillion people who make something I shell out money for. They get to have a personality that might not meet with my approval, when they're off the clock, and it gets to be their business. When I hear people advocating for threatening artists with poverty, all I can think is: if customers did that with your job (should I pay you? It all depends on whether I like your politics and everything I can find out about your personal life ...) you'd be freaking out about it hard. And probably consider it staggeringly entitled and abusive.

Boycotts were a reasonable response to corporations abusing the fact that there was often no one person who could be held accountable for their ingrained doing-business pattern of screwing over customers and workers. That's been perverted into this.

Lois and Clark was superior to both Smallville and Superman and Lois. It had a Superman in it, beating Smallville, and people regularly smiled instead of looking like they were being stretched on a rack for fifteen hours a day before making it like in S&L. And something exciting happened every episode.

And we had a Superman capable of looking clean shaven. I hate the permastubble look.

oopsie

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