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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-09-15 03:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #6463 ]


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(Anonymous) 2024-09-15 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought I read the emerald mine thing was an internet conspiracy?

But either way, I never liked him either. Right there with you wanting to scream "I told you so!" but refraining because we are adults lol

(Anonymous) 2024-09-15 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
no, his dad really does own emerald mines. I'm south african and we all knew it before he hit the big time. protip: his dad is even worse than him but is less reaching and so often gets a pass by most people

(Anonymous) 2024-09-15 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
If it is, then the entire rest of his family and a bunch of his former neighbors are in on it.

...Actually, you know what? That would be amazing.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-16 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
Musk claims that the emerald mine thing isn't true (because he doesn't like being thought of as a nepo baby even though he is) but his dad and, you know, reality say it's true.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-16 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn’t he issue one of his stupid twitter challenges for someone to prove it and his father the emerald mine owner showed up with the receipts?

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-15 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I lived in happy, blissful ignorance about this dudes existence for ages until he bought twitter. Now I have knowledge forced upon me and I hate it.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-15 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Same! Only he came on my radar because he made EVs mainstream, which I had been hoping would happen for twenty years. It was a few years before I understood Musk's most significant contribution to the cause was marketing.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-15 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately I knew about him before because he seemed to appear in/be referenced in every vaguely nerdy thing in the 2010s but oop apparently he paid for all that shit.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-15 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
He was on my radar when Grimes dated him and I was wondering why a self-proclaimed "anti-imperialist" and otherwise progressive person was dating a shitty dudebro like him. Buying Twitter made me hate him more than I already did.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-16 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
Same. I don't follow that sort of tech news that he was involved with and I'm not on social media, so the first I ever started hearing of him was when all the controversies about him started making the news in recent years. I think I first heard of him around the time of that mine rescue, and his shitty behavior around that. So he's always been seen as a total dick to me.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-15 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
he had really fucking good PR

(Anonymous) 2024-09-15 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I knew he was a wrong 'un after he expressed his weird, misanthropic and agoraphobic views on public transport. Which probably come from being a white South African of his specific generation.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-15 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I got bad vibes from him back when he was trying to market his flamethrower, my dad thought it was funny. I did my research, learned about the emerald mine stuff, felt justified in the vibes I was getting. Mom tried to tell me he wasn't that bad, just a run-of-the-mill eccentric wealthy white dude. I'm thankful that he's aggressively done everything in his power since then to prove me right, because they never would have believed me otherwise (they think I'm too 'radical' for favoring Bernie over Biden).

(Anonymous) 2024-09-15 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck Elon obviously but like I hope we can agree that having bad vibes and "looking like a villain" are not a good basis upon which to judge a person's character.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-16 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
oh but you don't understand, actually, he's really brilliant because he got sent to canada with $0.05 and he worked on farms and earned his own way!

I wish my father did not try to tell me this story every time anyone mentions Musk being an asshat.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-16 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
It’s kinda scary to me how many FSers didn’t know anything about him until recently. Dude has been making headlines for decades. How did anyone manage not to know about all the shit that’s been going down at Tesla? Or miss the fact that the SCC sanctioned him? Didn’t know his tweets were heavily restricted and monitored and part of his reason for buying the company?

(Anonymous) 2024-09-16 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
FS has a number off really regressive posters who really hate the idea that fandom and politics intersect.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-16 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
Where are you getting the idea that people didn't know anything about him until recently?

Most people ITT say that they've known about him since 2018 or earlier. That's the same year he got in hot water with the SEC for his tweets in the first place.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-16 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
Assuming you'd like a sincere answer, I've had no deterioration in my quality of life between when I was paying a lot of attention to politics and world news and when I wasn't. Rather, unplugging from both the mainstream media and the alternative media and just going with "if it's important enough, someone in real-time will want to talk about it" has made a dramatic difference in how well I treat people. Because I'm looking at them, instead of wondering if they're nefarious supporters of some sinister political plot that will ruin everything.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-16 08:47 am (UTC)(link)
I have decreased the amount of time I spend on twitter by like 90% (mostly because everyone I followed left, I'm sick of knowing too much about American politics, and I cannot be bothered with bluesky) for zero decrease in quality of life. I've made an effort to follow a few more internet culture writers on substack (will spend my life trying to recreate 2010-era google reader, sigh) which makes me feel like I still know what's going on in the world.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-16 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
I have known about him since maybe 2010ish? Because I knew who he was in Iron Man 2, although the extent of that knowledge was 'rich tech guy, seems fun'.

I don't care about cars, driverless or not, so the Tesla hype passed me by. But I dd spend a lot (way too much) time on twitter, so my opinion shifted probably around the Thai cave rescue incident, where people were putting together threads about his pattern of promising to fix a problem and then not doing it. The wheels were starting to come off the Tesla hype around then as well, I guess as more people started actually owning them.

To your point though, I think " Or miss the fact that the SCC sanctioned him" is a pretty big reach. Yes it's a big deal, but it's also pretty niche - I used to read Matt Levine's Bloomberg column fairly religiously, but SCC sanctions rarely make it off the business page, and even then, that's not world news. I couldn't name another person or company sanctioned in the last two years and I'd bet you that most people couldn't either.

"How did anyone manage not to know about all the shit that’s been going down at Tesla" Again, this is a reach. Yes, if you're terminally online twitter-style, that would be hard to miss. But otherwise? It's not headline news. It's just another thing in the overall soup of bad news - what's the difference between labour rights violations and union busting at Tesla vs Honda or Hyundai or BMW? I couldn't name the head of Volksvagen despite their emissions scandal, and if it's ridiculous not to know who Elon Musk is, isn't that the same?

(Anonymous) 2024-09-16 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I appreciate you sending me down the rabbit hole of researching the difference between SCC and SEC sanctions.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-16 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, “all the shit going down at Tesla” makes most people think about the fact that they sell overpriced deathtraps. The rest of it falls under “corporations gonna corporate.”

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-16 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I don't recall when I first heard of Elon Musk but it likely was a lefty YTer who made a video making fun of Musk because I have never understood how anyone could buy into his "cool-made-it-on-my-own-dating-famous-women" persona.

Like, from jump, I was told he's the son of a wealthy white South African millionaire/billionaire.
And that's enough to know to be skeptical of taking Musk seriously/someone with good intentions.
The more I found out about him it became clearer and clearer he's an edgelord who bought his way to fame.
But IDK people are very easily blinded by money based off the ways people suck up to Musk and other shitty wealthy people.