[ SECRET POST #6478 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6478 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Reminds me of the more than just one popular post about solidarity for queer kids who related to villains and didn't connect with heroes growing up. Uh, I'm queer and almost always related to one of the heroes, if I related to anyone? Villains were boring! Their only personality trait was "evil"! Is that supposed to be the queer experience? Those posts were so alienating, I didn't even not relate to villains because I thought I was too good of a person, I barely thought about them at all. I guess maybe it's different now but kids stuff didn't have nuanced villains when I was young. They weren't like anyone I knew, queer or not.

[(Anonymous)]

I guess they feel like that because the villains are sometimes outcasts, or whatever? Like Joker and Loki, IDK. Like, they became villains because of how they were treated and the queer people who identify feel like they're treated poorly?

I don't really get that either.

[(Anonymous)]

da

I think it's often because of queerness being vilified and seen as deviant. Some kids have that end up part of their self image in childhood, and attach to villain characters. Additionally, queer villains and queer coded villains aren't uncommon, and a lot of people have a soft spot for those, even if they're stereotypical or negative characters. The outcast thing is part of it but like ayrt said plenty of people still see themselves more in heroic characters too, but relating to villains or loving them in fiction is definitely common.

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[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it was about queercoding, but I didn't know what queercoding was when I was young, and since kid show queercoding was all about behavior stereotypes and not implied attraction to the same gender, I saw nothing to relate to because I wouldn't even have known how to act like a queer stereotype. Hell, I didn't know what "queer" was, let alone that it was me.

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[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I kind of get what you mean. I definitely picked up on gender nonconforming villains being "like me" and that being a bad thing, even before I had words for queerness, because I could see myself in villains with the "wrong" clothes or mannerisms for their gender. That said, I wasn't a big villain fan when I was very young, it took me until I was older to like villains more as characters. I think seeing a resemblance made me a bit more hesitant to like villains at first!