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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-10-27 03:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #6505 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6505 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-27 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
If I was a black person and my people had a history of being erased by white people I'd be pissed too.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-27 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
But she isn't being erased. She's still the top billed star of the biggest musical film of the year. A very harmless fan edit does not erase her. And frankly, as a black person I'd be pissed at her for calling this the "most offensive thing she's ever seen" - way to make light of actually offensive shit.
This is just a super classic Streisand effect thing.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-27 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, I sort of get it, especially since they didn't bother changing Glinda's look... but in this case, it's so blatantly obvious this had nothing to do with erasure and everything to do with imitating a famous poster...

Well. You'd think, being in the business and suffering real, genuine, horrific racism on a daily basis, you'd recognise when not to pick a battle with someone who clearly didn't intend it that way.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-28 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
They did edit Glinda too, though. The edited version has her hand covering more of her face, which was the main thing that was lessening the impact of her part of the image, and which ought to be the same amount of offensive as hiding some of Elphaba's face.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-27 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry, but the original movie poster was just bad. She looked like an emotionless doll on it, there was none of the personality that the musical poster had.

The shaded eyes and the slight smirk told you so much about the character of Elphaba in a single static image. The movie poster? It was utterly bland and devoid of anything even resembling character.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-27 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
It really depends on if you believe photo manipulation is erasure or not. Altering a photo of a person? Not cool. Altering a movie poster? Probably not erasure. Altering a movie poster to tie it to the source material? Definitely not erasure.

This doesn’t mean erasure doesn’t happen nor is it saying erasure isn’t a vile thing. But this wasn’t that. The movie poster always should have copied the musical poster and it’s incredibly stupid that it didn’t. And her reaction was equally stupid because she falsely claimed erasure AND overlooked the fact that the image was heavily edited by the studio.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-27 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see why it rubbed her the wrong way, but the intent of copying the musical poster is pretty clear to me, since Elphaba is hidden by her hat in that poster and it's very well-known as being the Wicked musical art. Plus it is just a fan edit and nothing official, she is still shown fully on the real posters and presumably on all the official movie media releases.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-27 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That only kiiiiinda explains it, but she still looks like she's overreacting. She's not being erased. The edit was not done as a personal attack, or a racist attack. It was very, very obviously done to mimic the earlier poster and for no other reason.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-28 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
If she was being erased because of her race, then hell yes, it's right to be pissed about it. But getting this upset over a trivial fan edit of a movie poster doesn't make her look like she's got a legitimate reason to complain. It just makes her look - at best! - slightly nuts.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-28 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
The fan edit moved Ariana's hand too to cover more of her face.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-28 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
Do we even know if the person who made the edit was white? It was someone in the Mexican fandom. Sure, there are white Mexicans, but... actually you know what, I wouldn't even assume they were white if they were American.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-28 08:47 am (UTC)(link)
From what I've read the account who was attacked for this wasn't even the person who did the edit, they just reposted it to their Mexican Wicked fanpage.