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[ SECRET POST #6505 ]

⌈ Secret Post #6505 ⌋

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My favourite part about this whole mess is the whole "We communicate with our eyes" part. Like, girl, you're next level deluded and definitely not the actress you think you are because the bland empty expression in your eyes communicates exactly nothing at all.
(And people were actually mocking her for it, photoshopping her face into this one famous thousand yard stare pictures and she actually reposted it? But then flipped out about THIS fan edit? What the...?)

LOL right? Her eyes were communicating exactly nothing. Having the eyes not visible communicated a lot!

She's been on the Diva path with a capital D for a while now. Some people have enough talent (ie Patti Lupone) to make up for being insufferable. I think Cynthia may just make it - she was astoundingly good in The Color Purple - but it's not a category most people like to be put in.

I also think she's thin-skinned and the negative Idina comparisons can't be helping. As someone who hates Idina Menzel's singing and loves Cynthia Erivo's singing, I don't think she has much to be worried about.

Patti's most iconic moments tend to be either aimed at people of similarly iconic stature (the ALW Memorial Swimming Pool, eating a hot wing rather than apologizing to Madonna) or stuff a vast majority of people agree with anyways (her cell phone freakouts, seriously if Patti can see you on your phone in the audience you're DEFINITELY not the bootlegger you think you are). She's had misses, sure, but she's hilarious enough and been doing it long enough that most of the time it's just, like, there goes Patti LuPone being an icon again.

Also, her memoir was literally EXACTLY what you want the Patti LuPone memoir to be.

Why didn't the fan edit change Galinda's clothes?

I'm guessing because they aren't actually that great at editing. Elphaba was already wearing the hat and the lips are a small change, giving Glinda completely new clothes would have been harder. (They did change the pose though so her face is also covered up much more). But in the end, it's just a cute but fairly basic fan edit by someone who obviously isn't a professional graphic designer.

For a fan edit, that seems... really mild. But maybe that's because I remember the absolutely hilarious ones from the LOTR days or Supernatural. I'm not into musicals, are they not used to this kind of thing?

It's not even much of a change, they just tweaked the (super bland and visually much less interesting) movie poster a bit to look more like the stylised and visually much more interesting musical poster. And improved it, really.

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Lollllll wow. Am I missing anything here or was she really just that mad about a fan edit copying the well-known musical poster?

I do sympathize with the stress she may be feeling from getting racist hate and nitpicky comparisons to other actresses who have done the role, such as obviously Idina. Maybe the edit rubbed her the wrong way after being bothered by something else? Still comes across like an overreaction.

The thing is, the real issue with live action poster is that she's staring blankly with zero emotion. Like, we don't just communicate with eye contact, we read facial expressions too, so I don't understand why she's acting like this promo poster is some masterful piece of acting.

Oh yes, same.

She's just staring. Nothing of value was lost with the edit! It's more fun and mysterious!

The fan poster is a million times better. It references the musical poster and communicates personality and emotion. The official poster is frankly quite terrible.
And yeah, she’s extremely thin skinned. Time will tell if she can survive her outburst. NGL, I’m rooting against her.

I absolutely hate the look of that matte green lipstick in the original poster, it looks just like that, a bad matte lipstick, not like her natural lip colour at all. I know Elphaba doesn't have the red lip in the show either but for a poster, it makes for such a good contrast but really, the green they gave her for the original movie poster is just bad.

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I looked up the original movie posters and honestly, the fan edit made it more interesting, which makes this drama even more hilarious.

The musical poster looks really good but I suppose for an actor it's preferable to be recognizable on a movie poster? It's the only reason I can think of why the movie poster didn't hide her face (and didn't hide more if the other characters face behind her hand) in the first place. It looks so much more intriguing like that!

I don't even go here (not a musicals fan) but I know that poster because it's just so iconic and I respect the idea that they just didn't want to copy the famous original exactly but the official poster was just... I don't want to say bad, but my reaction was "how do you mess THIS up so badly?" and I thought the fan edit was an inoffensive "what if it looked a bit more like the original poster" - I feel so bad for the girl who created it getting thrown into all this.

If I was a black person and my people had a history of being erased by white people I'd be pissed too.

But she isn't being erased. She's still the top billed star of the biggest musical film of the year. A very harmless fan edit does not erase her. And frankly, as a black person I'd be pissed at her for calling this the "most offensive thing she's ever seen" - way to make light of actually offensive shit.
This is just a super classic Streisand effect thing.

I mean, I sort of get it, especially since they didn't bother changing Glinda's look... but in this case, it's so blatantly obvious this had nothing to do with erasure and everything to do with imitating a famous poster...

Well. You'd think, being in the business and suffering real, genuine, horrific racism on a daily basis, you'd recognise when not to pick a battle with someone who clearly didn't intend it that way.

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I'm sorry, but the original movie poster was just bad. She looked like an emotionless doll on it, there was none of the personality that the musical poster had.

The shaded eyes and the slight smirk told you so much about the character of Elphaba in a single static image. The movie poster? It was utterly bland and devoid of anything even resembling character.

It really depends on if you believe photo manipulation is erasure or not. Altering a photo of a person? Not cool. Altering a movie poster? Probably not erasure. Altering a movie poster to tie it to the source material? Definitely not erasure.

This doesn’t mean erasure doesn’t happen nor is it saying erasure isn’t a vile thing. But this wasn’t that. The movie poster always should have copied the musical poster and it’s incredibly stupid that it didn’t. And her reaction was equally stupid because she falsely claimed erasure AND overlooked the fact that the image was heavily edited by the studio.

I can see why it rubbed her the wrong way, but the intent of copying the musical poster is pretty clear to me, since Elphaba is hidden by her hat in that poster and it's very well-known as being the Wicked musical art. Plus it is just a fan edit and nothing official, she is still shown fully on the real posters and presumably on all the official movie media releases.

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The original movie poster makes Cynthia look creepy, and not in a good way.

When did the "*checks notes*" aside become a thing? How did it evolve?

Eh, it was unhinged and she should have apologized. But also, it can be hard to tell when people make art what is the intention. If you didn't know that the purpose of the art was to make it closer to the musical poster, you might be like "...Why did you do this??"

Erivo's reaction was an overreaction and she should have apologized for it once the artist explained and apologized. But also the internet's reaction to her reaction has been a huge overreaction too, and people need to just let it go. Someone flipping out over a photoshop involving their image that they misunderstood the intention of is... a really tiny thing in the grand scheme of things.