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[ SECRET POST #6568 ]

⌈ Secret Post #6568 ⌋

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You're not wrong. The older I get the more I look at people who have made "anime" their identity in the same way potheads make weed their identity and sports fans make their home team their identity, and they're the personification of glass houses and throwing stones. I used to go to anime cons all the time over the last 15 years, up to 7 or 8 a year, but now I don't recognize the scene as inclusive or friendly at all. It's a bunch of idiots punching down, it's cool to be a jackass. Guess it's time I retire and start going to Trekkie cons instead....oh wait....

Ever since anime became mainstream (I would say this happened in 2020 honestly even though it was gaining popularity in the West before then), I think newer anime fans have this idea in their head that they need to seem "normal" to non-weebs in order to be respected, and therefore this requires them to shun anything that could even be vaguely considered strange by non-weebs. And of course, they don't want to look mean by saying something is cringe, so now they lace everything in therapy-speak and accuse anyone they don't like of being a predator or "normalizing abuse" or whatever.

No matter what you do, most people in the West (especially older ones) will always think you're a freak. Just embrace it.

I knew a lot of gross anime bros when I went to screenings and cons. All greasy and awkward who hadn't grown out of their teenage incel phases and probably still haven't.

Same here but switch greasy and awkward with rude and violent. Adult guys who are big fans of certain shonen series are a red flag for me.

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Every fandom has some bad fans but anime and furries have a very large percentage that act out horribly on people outside the fandom. And their respective fandoms handwave it as being socially awkward like that’s an excuse to be a truly shitty person.

I think it's funny the way you put a headshot against a pinup secret maker.

I found the image used on Google cuz it just made me laugh.

I don't judge either personally. Unless someone is being a problem for other people they can be into what they like, it has no bearing on my life and thus I don't care.

notOP but...I see OP's take in real life a lot. I used to staff conventions and now vend at them, I'm involved in SCA and other LARP orgs. People who exist as walking weeb stereotypes - and furry stereotypes, let's be real - do so as a problem to other people both in meatspace and online all. the. time. People being into a thing know that other people make them look bad and, sadly but honestly, keep it on the downlow. If I were still doing graduate work in cultural sociology I would seriously do a study on the correlation between vocal identity in a subgroup and documented bad behavior, because I feel it would be enlightening. But also depressing. But also I don't have time to do that kind of work uncredited.

Anyway, you and I and most of this comm can be non-judgmental about what people are into all we want, but the non-shitty people still have to keep their interests on the downlow because of the shitty people. And those shitty people really do go out of their way to make it everyone's problem, even and especially irl.

+1 This is exactly what I mean in more thoughtful wording.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) - 2024-12-30 04:37 (UTC) - Expand

I can see where you're coming from, but not sure I quite agree with this because this would mean nobody in any fandom has the right to dish anything out.

What broad fandom doesn't have a subgroup of obnoxious or generally terrible fans? Slash? Nope. Femslash? Nope. Shipping in general? Nope. Bandom? Nope. Big movie fandoms? Definitely nope. Book fandom? Look at people harassing authors over things...

Why do you, OP, get to dish it out?

(I am neither a weeb nor a furry, just not into double standards)

Complaining about bad behavior is a little bit different then complaining about bad taste.

Yeah, it's the bad actors of both acting like they're totally not the same. Individual people with these interests in isolation are fine, the wider community I just can't deal with anymore.

Do you often take the trash out of your own fandom? Do you hold yourself responsible for their presence in your fandom?

>because this would mean nobody in any fandom has the right to dish anything out.

Technically, yeah. They have a right to their opinion but the point of my secret is how these two communities act like they have a *moral* high ground when a lot of it deals with the same social fallacies. I'm all for ribbing and poking fun, but glass houses, you know? We're all the same to people who don't care about fanfiction and whatnot.

Sort of? But when the call is to 'take out your own trash' that's every single fandom.

"Act like they have a moral high ground"

You mean like you're doing RIGHT NOW?

Shitty people like things, too! News at 11!

My response: https://feotakahari.tumblr.com/post/769454096352739328

That's a very cute comic

No fandom is a monolith and I don't think it's fair to say furry/anime fandoms are all the worst of all negative stereotypes of their fandom.

With that said, yeah, anime fandoms have no legs to stand on to look down on anyone lmao

Both communities have a serious Nazi problem in them, that is for sure. I kinda get it for the Anime fandom, given Japan's history. I will never understand the Nazi furries though, do they not understand that they would be in the camps for being perverts or mentally undesirable by the actual historical Nazis they are idealizing?

If you mean they're killing anybody, I have yet to find any fandom with "a serious Nazi problem." If you mean some people read Hitler speeches in their free time and get into internet arguments over whether WWII Germany was as bad as allied histories claim - you've got those every fandom, it just usually isn't relevant to geeking out over fictional characters.

If anything, I've observed them a little more in fandoms associated with WWII movies/books than anywhere magical girls and sexy raccoons reside.

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(Anonymous) - 2024-12-31 03:16 (UTC) - Expand

Damn, sorry you hate children OP, I hope you sort your shit out someday <3

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