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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-12-29 05:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #6568 ]


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(Anonymous) 2024-12-29 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
As written, you're right it makes no sense. Top/bottom has not much to do with anything you mentioned.

But, most of the people you're talking about are using top/bottom to mean dominant/submissive. If you replace top/bottom (physical positions) with dominant/submissive (social/sexual/relationship dynamic positions) in most of those scenarios then it makes more sense.

But x2, they don't ever actually do that and always insist on using top/bottom instead, and I don't know why, either. Doms may top a lot and subs may bottom a lot, and there's certainly correlation, but the words don't actually mean the same thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[personal profile] philstar22 2024-12-29 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
This. And personally, I often find it extra fun when the dom is bottoming and the sub is topping. Changes up the dynamic and makes things more fun sometimes.

(Anonymous) 2024-12-29 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
DA.

This is the only way I can enjoy dom/sub, regular the dom is the top the sub is the bottom? Snoooooooore, boring, hate it. But switching that around tickles the right part of my brain, for ages I thought I wasn't into dom/sub, turns out I just don't like how it's done 90% of the time, lmao. xD

(Anonymous) 2024-12-30 02:02 am (UTC)(link)

Does this come from from the uke/seme stupid trope in yaoi or is it a different thing? Honest question.

(Anonymous) 2024-12-30 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
By "this" do you mean "people equating top with dom, and bottom with sub"?

It's probably not all from one place tbh. Yaoi and seme/uke dynamics has a factor in it, but so do traditional het romance novels where the woman/bottom is pretty much always sub, and I'm pretty sure those pre-date yaoi, and is where a lot of the "top/man is the more dominant than the bottom/woman" cliche. Can't ever recall reading any old het erotica novels where the woman was the top, whether written by men OR women.

(Anonymous) 2024-12-30 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
is where a lot of the cliche came from*