[ SECRET POST #6598 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6598 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Purity test time!

[(Anonymous)]

Very much depends on the kind of racism displayed, though. Is it easy to tell your dad is racist if he's tossing slurs around everywhere? Yeah. It's much harder if your parents are subtly racist in the "they're not like us" and "always trust 'your people' over others" and "meritocracy is real and people who claim racism are making excuses" sense and claiming they aren't racist while being very polite and never uttering a slur.

It's been interesting to me to see the people who say they learned better being way more open and understanding of other people's upbringings than the ones who claim to never have even accidentally done a wrong.

Re: Purity test time!

[(Anonymous)]

never have even accidentally done a wrong

I specifically said people who knew things were wrong and did them anyway, and then you started defending them because apparently up to 25 you get a free pass for having no conscience.

Re: Purity test time!

[(Anonymous)]

I don't see anything like that in the comment I replied to?

Re: Purity test time!

[(Anonymous)]

"It's much harder if your parents are subtly racist in the "they're not like us" and "always trust 'your people' over others" and "meritocracy is real and people who claim racism are making excuses" sense and claiming they aren't racist while being very polite and never uttering a slur."

Those things are incredibly racist and it's not even a question. Society is way past the point where we've realized you can be racist without using slurs. A so-called "polite" racist is still a racist even if they claim they're not.

Re: Purity test time!

[(Anonymous)]

...did anybody say those things weren't racist, besides these example racist parents that were called racist?

Re: Purity test time!

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, so I don't think we're having the conversation you think we're having. The point was not "this isn't racism," the point was that "to a 15 year old with parents like this it's not as obvious that their parents are racist, and harder to tell that their parents are racists when they coat it with a veneer of politeness. Especially since most kids don't want to think their parents are racist."

Are those things racism? Yes, obviously.

Is it more insidious and harder for a teenager to pinpoint as racism, especially if their parents aren't teaching them that it's racism? Also yes.

Biases are taught and not all of them are obvious, especially to young people.

Re: Purity test time!

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, I guess I misunderstood, sorry. Yes, that makes sense.

Biases are taught and not all of them are obvious, especially to young people.

That's exactly the point that I and a few other people are trying to make in this thread. Some of us weren't taught them, which is apparently super hard for some of these commenters to comprehend. It's like they think "oh, I said bigoted things when I was young, therefore everyone else must have too, and if someone says they didn't, I don't believe them". They refuse to believe that other people had different experiences than them, so it's kind of funny to me that they're the supposedly more open-minded ones.

Re: Purity test time!

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know if you were the person I was responding to or not, but you don't see the issue with someone being like "my dad was racist and I could tell immediately, so other teens must have also realized and simply agreed with what they were taught" while not taking into account that racism can be very insidious and hard to tell is racism if you aren't taught otherwise?

All I was saying is it is often not as simple as that. If every racist or type of racism were completely overt, it'd be much harder for well-meaning teens to get indoctrinated. Whereas lots of people look back and go oh my god, that was racist all along.

Re: Purity test time!

[(Anonymous)]

No, I'm not them, luckily my dad isn't racist. But unless someone is homeschooled by said racist dad/parents and never allowed to leave the house or read a book or watch TV, they are going to encounter other people who do not have the same beliefs as their racist parents and realize that maybe their parents aren't always right.