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⌈ Secret Post #1003 ⌋

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[The Baroque Cycle]

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[Hostel]

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[Heroes]

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[10 Things I Hate About You]

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[Keeley Hawes]

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[Battlestar Galactica/Glee]

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[Avatar]

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[Supernatural]

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[Pink]

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[Merlin]

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[Code Geass]

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[mushi-shi]

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[A Series Of Unfortunate Events]

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[Supernatural]

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[Queer as Folk]

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[Eli Roth]

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[Runaways]

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[Hōrō Musuko]

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[Gilmore Girls]

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[WIRES 2]

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[Code Geass]

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Did anyone seriously think Arthur/Merlin would ever become canon?

I certainly did. And don't give me this historical canon crap of the Arthurian legend, this show doesn't follow the legend on most accounts, so there was no obligation to make Arthur/Gwen canon instead of Arthur/Merlin.

I'm also really fed up with the tone of the above question. As if I'm deluded to think that Arthur/Merlin could become canon. It's not any less unlikely for Arthur to fall in love with his manservant than with his step sisters maidservant. Arguments like 'but it's a family show so they wouldn't bring The Gay' really piss me off, because it implies that homosexual relationships between men are inherently more sexual than heterosexual ones, which is discriminating and very 20th century.

I don't like being told that it was crazy of me to ever think that a perfectly normal ship could never become canon, just because they involve two men. Please don't insult me by claiming that Merlin and Arthur both being men isn't the reason you think it'd never happen.

This has nothing to do with Gwen!hate or misogyny or racism, it's the simple truth that slash pairings are less likely to become canon because we live in a mainly homophobic society. And I want to be able to watch shows that have gay men without making the fact that they are gay their only purpose. I would like to have heroes and role models that are not reduced to being the best friend, the comic relief, the beautiful fag that dies or a walking cliche.

I pretty much agree with everything you said. I didn't actually think they'd become canon, mostly due to the fact that I don't like to hope too hard for things I really want (I'm kind of a hardcore pessimist). But yeah, there's really no reason they shouldn't be able to become canon.

Edited 2009-10-04 20:40 (UTC)

THIS

THANK YOU.

And I want to be able to watch shows that have gay men without making the fact that they are gay their only purpose. I would like to have heroes and role models that are not reduced to being the best friend, the comic relief, the beautiful fag that dies or a walking cliche.

THIS, so fucking much! D:

and it's not like the show is oh-so-true to the legend anyway

Arguments like 'but it's a family show so they wouldn't bring The Gay' really piss me off, because it implies that homosexual relationships between men are inherently more sexual than heterosexual ones, which is discriminating and very 20th century.

The people making that claim may not believe this, however, they may believe that the TV network do. And they would likely be right.

This. I don't seriously believe it shouldn't be in a family show but one glimpse at our tabloid press shows exactly what a small-minded section of society thinks of homosexuality being allowed on TV at all. Maybe the BBC can't be arsed at the moment with another 20 000 bangwagon jumpers with nothing better to do than complain about something they didn't even see.

I'm not even part of this fandom but I was still really moved by your post.

And I want to be able to watch shows that have gay men without making the fact that they are gay their only purpose.

My god, THIS.

I've found myself wanting of late a show that was not marketed as a "gay romance." I just want what the most natural outcome to happen. Hell, I don't even watch Merlin, but this comment just really resonates with me.

I never thought it had any chance of becoming canon, but I wish so very much that it would because of everything you just said so well.

Really? You're going to pretend that this is about homophobia?
I'd respect you more if you just were honest and said, I wanted it because I ship it.

I'm not pretending that this is about homophobia and I did say that I want it because I ship it - I just phrased it differently.

BUT Is KING ARTHUR! I´m not saying not to have slashy undertones, my favorite Arthurian based mythology is Mists of Avalon, in that is clearly stated that Lancelot is in love with Arthur and I have no problem with that, but come on, of course Arthur is going to be with Guinevere. Without that it wouldnt be an Arthurian show at all.

It did!

I thought Mists of Avalon was psuedo-feminist drivel, but if it really depicted Lancelot pining after Arthur, then I will re-think my stance immediately.

ps I like the A/G tremendously, but the OP of this secret seems a bit rude. What just is wrong with Merlin/Arthur anyway?

And I want to be able to watch shows that have gay men without making the fact that they are gay their only purpose.

THIS!
Thank you (:

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