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[nanslice]

I'm a huge proponent of "adopt, don't shop", but I also think there are responsible breeders who practice healthy breed standards. idk, people get really passionate about this subject, lol.

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[(Anonymous)]

(Sorry, fam, this was way more readable on Imgur!)

I stopped watching and unfollowed one of my favorite YouTubers because they went on a rant* about how it is always morally wrong to get a purebred dog and how bad you are as a person if you don't adopt a shelter dog.

I don't know if they're being childish for having such a black-and-white view of things, or if I'm being childish because I have a purebred dog and I got offended by that. :/

*The rant was in a video about their relationship with their partner. I'm at least mature enough that I didn't click into a video called "My Opinion on Dogs" and then get offended when they shared their opinions on dogs.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah. Adopt or shop responsibly. If you can afford a dog from a good breeder, do it.

[(Anonymous)]

Adopt or shop responsibly.

Adopting is great, but you're potentially opening yourself up to dealing longterm with a dog that has trauma and a lot of bad training you need to undo.

A responsibly well-bred dog from a breeder is fine. They health check, ensure lines aren't closely related and don't breed dogs with issues. They will also let you see the bitch at home with the pups and allow you to meet the sire, or put you in contact with the owner of the sire, which is usual. Responsible breeders are important. You also get a dog more likely to have a standard temperament for that breed from a good breeder.

Buying some random dogs from Janet who rubs two dogs on each other and gives them a stupid-ass portmanteau name to make a quick buck is not a responsible breeder. Anyone who sells anything ending in 'poo' or 'doodle' or anything along those lines is not a responsible breeder. Ever.

[(Anonymous)]

Christ, but I am sick of the doodle dogs. All of them.

Apologies to any f!sers with doodles, I’m sure yours are wonderful dogs. But I find the trendiness of -doodle and -poo dogs absolutely infuriating.

[(Anonymous)]

That fucking Janet, man.

[(Anonymous)]

Ngl I do judge the people who order a designer or purebred dog, but I also know there are certain circumstances that getting a purebred is not awful. But I can also see people who shop for purebreds getting defensive about this. So I think both your takes could be right.

[(Anonymous)]

ngl there is definitely a list of breeds I will judge folks for pursuing through a breeder as-is (as opposed to picking up from a shelter or crossing with another breed to lessen a harmful purebred trait).

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I'm honestly sick and tired of that attitude myself. It is not random people's responsibility to clean up other people's messes, and by that I mean their refusal to get their pets fixed. No one should feel pressured into adopting someone else's mutt all because they wouldn't get the snip for their dogs.

[(Anonymous)]

Irresponsible breeding is bad. Period. Just because it might be a "mix" doesn't mean good practices were followed.

That said, all doggos deserve love.

[(Anonymous)]

If we don't support responsible breeders they'll go out of buisbut irresponsible breeders will keep going.

And sometimes you want a known quality in the size/shedding/energy level/personality of your dog. I know I couldn't take care of a dog that got bigger/more energetic than I was expecting.

[(Anonymous)]

Yyyyyup. Heck, it's good to know as much about the breed(s) as possible. I feel like a lot of folks don't do this in general and then get surprised their pet is more than what they can handle.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. My friend adopted a mix from a shelter... this dog was the size of a loaf of bread as a puppy, but now? Now this dog is 110 lbs, because guess what, it turns out the dog is part Great Pyr (the shelter had thought it was part Golden and part something smaller). He loves the dog but it is WAY more dog than he was expected when he adopted that tiny puppy.

[(Anonymous)]

I get purebred dogs and they've all been fine and healthy (barring the "champion" line" one I got first that was actually probably overbred which caused some issues, but yep, that was the one with the fanciest paperwork and well-known breeder.)

But the reason why there are so many shelter dogs that need homes is the irresponsible breeding of pit bulls/pit mixes that a lot of families just do not want because they have kids, other pets, or a small apartment. I'm aware there are some sweet dogs in this category and I feel sorry for them, but I just don't want a dog with that kind of bite strength, or that I can't carry by myself to go the vet if he or she is sick.

I really, really wish these dogs would all be grandfathered out of the gene pool by sterilizing them all under law. It would be nice to go to the shelter and get a mutt that isn't like the Panzerhund from Wolfenstein.

[(Anonymous)]

Boy, that escalated quickly.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow.

[(Anonymous)]

The way this comment went from questionable grasp of nature vs nurture to full on dog eugenics is sure something.

[(Anonymous)]

I wish you would be grandfathered out of the gene pool by sterilizing you under the law.

[(Anonymous)]

sterilization is not an answer. There's laws like that here but then they let the dogs out and people get killed or mutulated, usually kids. A huge no from me for homeless dogs. A dog wants to atack humans and not to breed.
This is all offtopic to the secret but oh well.

[(Anonymous)]

I do admit that after watching the BBC document Pedigree Dogs Exposed I wonder sometimes if even the good breeders (ie not puppy mills) aren't also doing a lot of harm.

[(Anonymous)]

Dog people are fucking weird. And I say this as someone who just started therapy and antidepressants because having my dog put down killed something inside of me. Dogs are awesome. Their people, not so much.

[(Anonymous)]

I think any dog breed that is almost guaranteed to be messed up and/or in pain for most of its life should be outcrossed to the point that it reduces the chance any given dog of the breed will need costly surgery and/or meds and/or to be put down young. I know some breeders are working to restore or develop less fucked up breeds, and I hope they succeed.

So brachiocephalic breeds, but also iirc border collies with the super narrow skulls that cause headaches, some large breeds with hip and heart problems, lots of breeds are prone to weird skin and cancer problems... French bulldogs deserve special attention because they have to give birth by c-section; that's fucked up.

Idk if there are any dog breeds with the same horrible fucked up cartilage/arthritis thing Scottish Fold cats get. It's not just dogs that breeders mangle, and iirc there's no such thing as a Scottish Fold that doesn't have it; that's what makes their ears do the cute fold thing and gives them their bowlegged stance.

[(Anonymous)]

My dog's a rescue, but I knew her temperament going in (she's my first pup). I'm definitely adopt over shop, and I do sometimes get iffy over breeders, but I think keeping dogs bred to be healthy is good. Breeding for aesthetic in spite of health though, not so much.

I think the only reason I can accept breeding over adoption is that I also take care of a niche group of pets where explosive breeding is a thing, so having responsible breeders is a huge deal in the community (for health). Without that background, I'd probably have the same exact opinion as this youtuber.

[(Anonymous)]

If people are set on getting a purebread dog, then I hope its by a good breeder rather than a backyard breeder who abuses and abandon dogs who can no longer breed any more.