[ SECRET POST #099 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #099 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Early because I need to go recharge.

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 106 secrets from Secret Submission Post #015.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Sunday, April 15th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: Here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[degrees.livejournal.com]

Dear maker of #2,

Thank you for generalizing those of us who want a seme as not having a spine. Some of us feel rather irritated to be lumped in with the whiny, weepy, stereotypical ukes. Some of us really do have the ability to stand up for ourselves, and think for ourselves, and generally be self-sufficient. And to have you tell those of us who are normal, functional human beings who just happen to like those people with a seme-type personality to "grow a spine" is insulting. That's like telling someone who has a preference for blondes over brunettes or people with a sense of humor over people who are serious to change some nonexistent character flaw that makes them like that sort of thing.

In short, it's a preference, get over it, and I hope that someone tells you that something you like is wrong so that you'll know how it feels.

Sincerely,
Lizzie
One of the aforementioned insulted people who prefers someone with a stronger personality.

[grayout.livejournal.com]

*DIES* UKE!

[degrees.livejournal.com]

Don't mock me! D:

[grayout.livejournal.com]

*MOCKS* WHAT NOW

[degrees.livejournal.com]

*PUNCHES* THAT NOW

[grayout.livejournal.com]

*ANGST*

[degrees.livejournal.com]

*GLEE*

[grayout.livejournal.com]

*aaaaaaaaaaangst and a single tear*

[degrees.livejournal.com]

*icon says all*

[grayout.livejournal.com]

Actually on topic, I'm a greedy bisexual switch and I want BOTH DAMMIT

[degrees.livejournal.com]

Polyamory-R-us is thataway *snerk*

But really, yeah, most of my characters are too. I just happen to be attracted to people with stronger personalities than mine.

[grayout.livejournal.com]

*dies* I meant me! And what's wrong with polyamory! D:

[degrees.livejournal.com]

I didn't say there was anything wrong with it! *dies*

[longlongwaytogo.livejournal.com]

genuine question/wondering: Don't you think there's a difference between a fangirl/boy saying they want a 'seme' in real life, and someone simply being attracted to stronger personalities/liking to be on the bottom (if they are male or female)? I think there is. The 'not having a spine' thing I think I can connect with the fan ness. You know, is all jealous because some character has someone who initiates everything and ultra protects them and that. Also, I don't like the term 'seme' as used in fandom/what people think it means, because it just seems... hugely stereotypical, and it *is* in fandom, usually where the character or the person is all... stereotypically weak having to be protected by a big strong man. I know that there ARE relationships like that, but if a fangirl/boy is all 'ooo i want one!' then I'd also be like 'please. grow a spine'. But... I also dislike women who are all 'oh, i want to marry someone who is rich so I don't have to do anything ever again hurrah!' So when fans say 'ooo i want a seme too!' it doesn't seem like they have any effing clue.
Nothing wrong with liking stronger personalities in itself, or preferring certain positions.

[(Anonymous)]

That's what I mean, seme is a fandom term

[degrees.livejournal.com]

Actually, according to my martial artist ex-boyfriend, it and uke are terms from uh... at least one of the martial arts. I can't remember which. And they have been for longer than they've been fandom terms. *dies*

To longlongwaytogo, I'll answer you when I'm more coherent. I've been awake for too long today. :3

[longlongwaytogo.livejournal.com]

It's okay, just wondering/thinking out loud.

[estranger.livejournal.com]

Lol oh man! Funny how the fact that you reply at all to the secret is typical of the stereotypical whiny/weepy uke. Why do you CARE? If you're not what you say you're not and at the same time somehow saying that you are but you "do stand up for yourself" by telling the OP that they're wrong… Then why post at all when it, itself completely betrays any point you were trying to make?

I believe what the OP was also talking about were the sorts of ukes who are so damn clingy they choke and smother and CONSTRICT their seme to the point NO ONE has a spine, because the seme's spine has been BROKEN. Ukes can 'stand up and defend themselves', but that doesn’t stop them from being whiney or weepy or clingy or suffocating or the general essence of Guilt Tripping either.

The point is: pining for someone of dominance is OKAY. What's NOT OKAY is dragging them down into your pit of despair and woe.

Icon is VERY related.

[(Anonymous)]

Dear insulted person who really needs to stop taking things personally,

Does it ever occur to you that the stronger people might not want to deal with the submissive nature of their counterparts when it gets to the point that all they're doing is dragging their weight around?

The only reason seme wanters are generalized as not having a spine is because everything they do is the same. We can tell them we love them, a million times over, but they will still cry and weep about how no one loves them, how the stronger person's love isn't true, how we could love them when no one else does, how they "don't know what to do" when we ask them for things to do together then complain about not doing anything when we go and do things to our liking.

With your reply, I highly doubt it's any different. Thanks for not convincing me at all otherwise!

Sincerely,
A person who cannot stand spineless types!

[grayout.livejournal.com]

lolz you just described my ex-boyfriend and exactly why we broke up

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think even saints would be able to tolerate such an attitude. You have my sympathies for putting up with it for as long as you must have, if it was a long time at all.

[shahni.livejournal.com]

Wow, dealt with this (successfuly!), and all I have to say is I agree with this comment! ♥