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09. [WARNING for discussion of suicide/self-harm]

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09. [WARNING for discussion of suicide/self-harm]
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That would be more interesting, but also a lot more complicated to write which is a serious obstacle for a lot of people. It also probably doesn't occur to or appeal to younger fanfic writers as much as the more straightforward elements of attempted suicide/cutting.

I also wonder if younger fanfic writers are more likely to know someone who's self-harmed by cutting/attempted suicide than an alcoholic or compulsive gambler?

Seems more likely, yeah. They're also more likely to have encountered media where cutting/suicide is the coping mechanism of choice and it's more conspicuous than than say, someone who's slowly developing an addiction to online gambling or putting away a whole bottle of wine a night by themselves.

I think it's probably a combo hit of young writers that just don't know "self harm" beyond cutting, and people of all ages that don't have personal experience or exposure and only think of self harm as cutting. It's kind of like how people tend to lean towards the same old anorexia stereotype of they are writing about eating disorders.

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I've made a secret some time ago how one of my fandoms have infestation of self cutting fics. Adult just not tend to do it, they have so many more ways to self destruct. And it's more interesting to explore. But young writers mean young experience *sighs

I am absolutely with you on reading more self harm fics that aren't just cutting and suicide that isn't dramatic wrist slitting and dealing with it in a more comlicated or adult or nuanced manner. But you lose me at the addiction as self harm. I absolutely see where you're coming from and get it, but if I'm looking for self harm I'm not looking for self destructive behavior or addiction. For me those are all very different categories.

I'm with you, because addiction and destructive habits, while technically also being harmful to oneself, is not always meant as self-harm. I've known addicts who literally didn't consider the harm they do to themselves, some were at least conscious of what it did to others but that's the nature of addiction.

Agreed.

This one is kind of funny to me because I have a history of self harm and addiction and there is definitely overlap, but also they definitely pinged different parts of my brain. Like at one point the binging/purging became more of a self harm behavior for me rather than purely eating disorder motivated, and sometimes some of my self harm behaviors became more of an addiction, but I could tell when they switched over. They're all very different categories for me. But maybe that's because it's personal. I could see someone who has no experience with them just labeling it all as self harm.

I think it's too far in the other direction to declare that those behaviors are always different things and always NOT self-harm. Because sometimes they are.

Yeah, I said there was overlap.

Yeah, that makes sense.

The people I've known with drinking issues didn't actually mean to harm themselves. It was pleasure/escapism (and obviously, drinking is socially acceptable in many milieus so it's easy to fall into habits. I could hide PROBLEM drinking in social drinking easily).

and then you add in the whole "didn't realize what they were doing" component for a lot of people with these issues.

Because suicide and self harm is not the same thing as addiction and abuse. There are tags specifically for those things, and at least when I've come in contact with them, they've always had the extra author's note within the fic with a warning for self-harm but rarely with the tags. (because those things kinda go without saying)
Suicide is a whole different world though, as drinking yourself to death, substance abuse, overworking, and stalking, is typically a long game, and not really considered intentional suicide. Nothing you listed constitutes as suicide, really.

Your problem has more to do with your own interpretation losing you than lack of availability, I'd say.

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