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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-09-26 04:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #6839 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6839 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2025-09-26 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Look at it this way: a lot of sayings we take for granted entered our lexicon from Shakespeare, Sherlock Holmes, etc. Carlin is just one of those sources. A hundred years from now people will be saying the line about averages and stupid people as if it were some deep yarn of lore, not realizing who said it first (until some know it all rolls in on the version of reddit that will exist). Simpsons quotes will be the Shakespeare lingua franca of 2100. Be glad that you were one of the original generation to hear it live.

(Anonymous) 2025-09-26 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
There's no sayings originating from the SH books.
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[personal profile] iff_and_xor 2025-09-26 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)

You made me look up the various paraphrases of “when you have eliminated the impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth”.

I guess you’re right that it’s first used in a non-Holmes work by Conan Doyle, but since it gets used by Holmes more than once, I think it counts.

(Anonymous) 2025-09-27 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
it gets used A LOT in Holmes. I've finished my readthrough of the complete non-abridged works and I counted him quoting Occam's Razor no less than 5 times. that's the main one I was thinking of when I mentioned Holmes.

Also, even before the novel by the same name, "a stranger in a strange land" was a phrase used three separate times by L Frank Baum in various Oz books. Phrases can enter the zeitgeist even without us being able to trace a direct line, so even if Doyle didn't come up with the phrasing of Occam's Razor, there may be tons of people out there right now who have no idea that they got it from Holmes before they saw it in the wild. My point stands.
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[personal profile] iff_and_xor 2025-09-27 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)

Okay, I’m not entirely sure what your point is exactly. I think we’re in agreement on everything except whether the saying I mentioned counts as something entering the lexicon via the Sherlock Holmes stories.