[ SECRET POST #6864 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6864 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Is it just me or are antishippers ableist AF? I feel that antishippers are ableist in general, especially when they encounter neurodivergent proshippers or proshippers dealing with trauma.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, they are, along with a few other -ists.

[(Anonymous)]

Antishippers were awful towards my trauma. I don't believe people should disclose PTSD to "justify" reading/creating dark content, but I watched how the tide turned from "it's only okay to ship this if you're a survivor" to "it's never okay, seek therapy or repress yourself until you're miserable." I was told that what I read in private somehow contributes to other people getting abused, or that "trauma isn't an excuse to be a freak" (I'm vanilla and don't enjoy dark fiction as a kink).

[dani_phantasma]

Ugh that's VILE i'm sorry.
It also makes no logical sense like... how on earth does reading something fictional privately cause a person to be abused?????

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT
Something something, you're giving the content page views and thus enabling more of it to be made. And it theoretically might be used to groom. Or an abuser might see it and compell them to act out more. This was their logic.
Never mind the fact I was interested in stories that mirrored my own abuse, written by other abuse survivors.

[dani_phantasma]

oh right 9.9 they don't understand context. For example I see some of them complaining about Ao3 saying that its full of incest porn and citing all the fics tagged incest. Except tags are used when a fic DISCUSSES the topic, Not explicitly only porn.

Its basically the mindset of pro-book banning people. They don't care what context something is mentioned in. They just hate that it's mentioned AT ALL.

Because yes, surely reading Go Ask Alice is going to make ~impressionable teenagers~ go out and smoke crack.

[(Anonymous)]

Antishippers are the reason why I don't talk about my trauma/triggers on my blog. I've seen them be so nasty and use people's trauma as a weapon . I've even seen them deliberately try to trigger survivors.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT
The worst part is this experience was with former friends. We met in a Discord server via friends-of-friends, and all talked together in a group chat. Fandom stuff didn't come up, we mostly bonded over political discussions and being LGBT. When fandom was brought up, they turned out they were antis. Then the victim blaming came in.

I had a repentant anti phase for years because of them. I truly believed that enjoying ships that resembled my trauma *when I was a teen* somehow normalized abuse or meant I deserved to be abused. Luckily my therapist disagreed. These people are far out of my life now.

[bannedbookweek]

Bullies will go after whatever they can, especially anyone suffering from disabilities of any kind.

[(Anonymous)]

This. And Antis are more likely to be people itching to blow off steam on others.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen plenty raging ableist antis in the Dungeon Meshi fandom so that's definitely one fandom that supports this theory.

[feotakahari]

They definitely associate "autistic" with "childlike." Like that whole thing about how you couldn't ship Peridot from Steven Universe with anyone because she's "child coded."

[dani_phantasma]

Ohohoho they would explode in a ball of rage if they saw what I was like among my discord friends.

[(Anonymous)]

Definitely not just you-- not that I'm surprised that people who think it's okay to send living, breathing human beings death threats over fiction would also be bullies about everything else...

A lot of people I know who make the type of art/write the type of fiction that antis rail against are victims/survivors, but they certainly don't owe these freaks their own personal trauma just to be left alone to make what they make, and then you compound that with calling neurodivergent adults children... I wouldn't be surprised if they also didn't think any disabled people should be allowed to fuck.

[dani_phantasma]

The thing to remember about antis is that while some may pretend to be out for something good and moral, or noble , most of them are really just about making people feel shitty and guilty , often either to hurt or even break them or to manipulate them. They don't care about logical arguments, they don't care about apology or attempts to do better. They just want to tear "bad people" down and want the rush from it. But many of them don't dare confronting the actual monsters (nor should they honestly) so they got to people who they can make BELIEVE they are monsters.

I've seen/heard of antis bragging about making someone harm themselves (one even asking if they could put it on their chikfila application???) or mocking survivors who don't fall in line with them and using their trauma against them. It's truly disgusting how little empathy they show to actual human beings because they've decided they're no longer human.