[ SECRET POST #6877 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6877 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

And there's the reply debating the morality of it all, but again, and I think we agree, it's a futile argument. The situation wasn't being attributed, it was being described. When you get famous, you get attention. When you get attention, you don't get to pick and choose exactly what type attention you want.

Before you put words in my mouth, nobody "deserves" it but it is a known risk, a practical guarantee, even if by official paparazzi, that comes with the territory.

Nobody is addressing the latter and main point though, because I think we also agree that a rando following celeb news enough to write RPF is a very different thing from someone following my hypothetical sister or mother, a non-famous stranger they easily can reach IRL and would have to stalk to find info on, enough to write RPF. Which is what the original post was about.

[(Anonymous)]

I disagree - what the original post was getting at, IMO, was that EVERYONE is someone’s sibling or parent or child. If it’s not OK to treat a random person like that, it’s not OK to treat a celebrity just like that because they’re famous.

And absolutely it’s a question of morality. How someone treats another person is a moral issue. CELEBRITIES ARE REAL PEOPLE. What don’t you get about that?

[(Anonymous)]

THIS. I'm honestly disgusted that people are trying to normalize this shit.

Look, write whatever weird and kinky fantasies you want about the characters these actors play. That's fine because the characters aren't real. But the actors who play them ARE real. They aren't your Barbie dolls to smash together. Keep your freaky shit to yourself when it comes to real people. I don't understand why this is hard.

[(Anonymous)]

Because I don't think "writing stories based on public information" is immoral.

You seem to be equating "stalking celebrities" with "writing RPF" and those aren't the same thing. You do not have to stalk a celebrity IRL in order to write RPF. The question was not about stalking, it was about RPF.

I am saying that writing RPF of random non celebrities is far more inherently creepy because, you pretty much have to stalk them IRL to get anything to write RPF about, since they are not publicizing themselves on purpose.

We're talking about different things.

[(Anonymous)]

Same anon as above.

Ngl I truly did not expect "it is creepier to write stories about a private person based on zero public info, than it is to write stories about a celebrity based on existing public info they chose to put out there for publicity" would be such a controversial opinion to you. Whew.

[(Anonymous)]

Previous anon - And you have yet to respond to my earlier question about where the line is? When people who are writing RPF dive deep down a social network to find untagged pics, when they go back and dig up posts from years before the person was famous, when they look up info about their family - ALL things I’ve seen people do, btw - that’s OK to you? Because ONE of the people involved is a celebrity? Nowhere did I say it WASN’T creepy to do that about a private person. I just inherently disagree with the argument that it is NOT creepy if it’s a celeb. And the line between stalking and RPF is far too thin and fuzzy for a disturbing number of people.

[(Anonymous)]

You have yet to admit that "doxxing and stalking people online" is not actually the same thing as merely "writing RPF".

I have seen fans "scream at creators IRL about making their ships canon" and that is NOT the same thing as "shipping that ship".

Again, we are talking about different things. As long as the topic continues to be about two different things, it isn't going anywhere but in circles, lol.

[(Anonymous)]

No, it isn’t going anywhere at all. But as long as people are willing to turn a blind eye to the members of the fandom community who do cross lines, I’ll continue to be against all the people who claim they’re just writing “harmless” fic.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, I guess. Let the first broad section of fandom without problematic fans who they haven't pushed out, throw the first stone. I'll wait.

I should say, I'm not even an RPFer, so railing against me isn't even the right target.