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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-11-06 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #6880 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6880 ⌋

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Transcript by OP

[personal profile] fscom 2025-11-06 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
My favorite ships are ones where the canon characters bicker a lot, and my favorite fic is where they find each other truly infuriating at the start but learn to see and respect each other's strengths and value as people over time. Even if they remain infuriating sometimes.

But 'somehow, for absolutely no reason and against their best judgment, they instantly found the other character ~unbearably attractive~ and the entire 30 chapter ship is held up solely by the strength of somebody's 10/10 tits/abs/ass' fic is absolutely not what I'm looking for.

I hate that when I look up ship fic, it's a complete coin toss which version it will be.
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Re: Transcript by OP

[personal profile] tabaqui 2025-11-07 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Man, same. I particularly hate when Character A meets Character B for the first time in a fraught situation (natural disaster, shot and bleeding out, kidnapped, whatever) and the VERY FIRST THOUGHT is 'omg, so hot!!' like...really? REALLY?

(Anonymous) 2025-11-06 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Same, OP. Unfortunately, the former scenario is a lot harder to write properly, but the latter low hanging fruit.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-07 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I'm trying to think of tags that would differentiate these but I can't. Both fall under the slap slap kiss type trope and "slow burn" can happen over completely random physical attraction so that doesn't work

Fic summaries might work... but fics that go on to focus on character could start with Meeting An Attractive Stranger as the described premise before the story goes right to being annoyed by them and you don't know whether the Annoyance or the Attractive will be the focus

Hmmmm

(Anonymous) 2025-11-07 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
I feel this so hard. For me, the appeal of enemies/rivals-to-lovers is entirely that build from hatred to grudging respect to trusted ally to more. Action and shared experience are so much more interesting to me than "omg they're hot! but I hate them! but they're hot!"

(Anonymous) 2025-11-07 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Totally agree. Complexity, nuance, and gradual development are the MVPs of shippy fanfic for me. I don't always mind if there's some element of attraction right away (depends how it's handled I think), but I find it so very boring when attraction for attraction's sake is what's supposed to be carrying the fic.

Unfortunately, writing a complex, nuanced ship dynamic with gradual development is a lot harder than writing simple, immediate, obvious attraction and then drawing out the blatant, surface-level lust for however many thousand words.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-07 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Same!
It's my favourite dynamic, because I like people growing to respect and like each other. Not because they are thinking with their genitals

(Anonymous) 2025-11-07 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
Amen! I am currently, for the first time, reading fic for a F/M pairing of canon enemies, and have this exact reaction. This wasn't as big a problem when I was reading M/M fics of canon bros.
(Not to get on a soap box, but I think it really shows how readers and writers approach romance between "natural" and "abnormal" pairings. A reader might ask why these two men or women would be into each other; it's "abnormal", after all, and so the writer has to put effort into convincing the reader why these two especially would "go out of their way" to become an item. But het romance? Just have them think the other one is hot.)
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[personal profile] epicurean 2025-11-07 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Same.