[ SECRET POST #6886 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6886 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Just one and that is Marauders. Because they are what I use to show that "Well, we ship all the men because they have more character development" is bullshit and slash is more popular because women find two men making out is hot.

[(Anonymous)]

It's 2025 and people are still talking about this like it must be one or the other and isn't obviously both?

[(Anonymous)]

90% hot men. 10% everything else.

[(Anonymous)]

Hmm, seems extreme. There are way more canons focused on male protags than female protags, and in most ensemble cast canons, the male characters are usually the leads and the main antagonists and developed more accordingly. Besides, it's often said development that makes the male characters 'hot' to fans, so it's not so neatly and cleanly separated out like that.

Some fandoms slashing male NPCs doesn't make the above generally untrue across all fandoms. If 90% of fandoms were slashing male NPCs with no canon personalities, I'd agree with you, but it's the other way around in my experience. Arthur/Eames from Inception was another big one but it stood out because it was an exception, not because it was the rule.

[(Anonymous)]

Not to mention that when you have female-dominated casts, you usually see a correspondingly large amount of F/F shipping for the same reason: they're the leads and get more screentime and development.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

+1000 I did a small fact finding mission a few years ago and went to find the largest F/F fandoms on AO3. Almost all, if not every single one, of the top ten was a fandom with more female characters than male in the source material, and the female characters were more the focus in the source material.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt and yeah, I'm in the Kpop Demon Hunters fandom and it's OVERWHELMINGLY F/F in spite of the canon M/F ship. Why? Because the movie focuses primarily on the girls and their relationships with each other and the male characters are much more in the background.

[(Anonymous)]

Looks like someone has never encountered harem anime or harem shows.

[(Anonymous)]

+10000

Most slash fans gravitate to slash for a mix of reasons. At this point, people who don't get that are being deliberately obtuse IMO. It's not that the don't get it, it's that they don't want to accept it. They only want to acknowledge what they consider to be annoying, shallow reasons for preferring slash, so they feel validated for being judgmental and self-righteous.

[(Anonymous)]

It's so they'll be validated as "good feminists" so nobody will notice they're shipping underdeveloped female characters because that's what's hot to them.

[(Anonymous)]

Why is it bullshit? Especially in this case where the male characters actually did have more character development and there barely were any female characters to ship them with at the time this got popular?
Like, of all the possible valid examples you managed to choose one where your point is actually moot.

[(Anonymous)]

also Marauders but in my case it's because the resurgence of the Marauders fandom came with people saying 'tee hee I know jkr is bad now or whatever but it's okay because I'm into a different ERA of hp so you can't get mad at me it's morally pure', and I just can't... deal with any of that.

[(Anonymous)]

Was this a claim in the Marauders fandom? I always thought it was understood that the Marauders had a fandom for the open sandbox potential. Female characters weren't in the equation. You're taking one excuse from certain fandoms (which is mostly a strawman these days anyway) and applying it to a fandom it was never a part of and pretending that's proof of something.