[ SECRET POST #6980 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6980 ⌋

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[Disney's Pinnochio]


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[fscom]

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[Disney's Pinocchio]

[(Anonymous)]

You can lay that blame at the source material. Hot take, but Pinocchio never was a great novel, more like one long, heavy-handed cautionary tale.

[(Anonymous)]

It's a morality play written for children, so your hot take is a fair assessment. It was written back when chapter-fiction specifically for children was still a pretty new concept, so I think it picked up some extra credit just for having some new takes on the standard "obey your elders and say your prayers or wolves will eat you" kiddie fare.

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DA
Exactly. Pleasure Island was supposed to be an allegory for what their lives would be like without an education, since education was the way out of poverty and hard labor for most people.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

This is exactly what I came to say. The message was to stay in school and study your ass (ha) off, or else you'll be stuck doing hard labor for the rest of your life, since you won't have the knowledge or skills for anything.

When I played Persona 4, and was warned of "easy exits and false terminals," Pleasure Island came to mind almost instantly.

[greghousesgf]

of course sometimes you go to school and study and then when you grow up you find out you're on the stupid fucking autism spectrum and can't get a decent job anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I was about to say "Welcome to the world of 19th-century children's literature NOT written by Lewis Carroll or Edward Lear!"

[(Anonymous)]

That donkey transformation haunted my childhood dreams. That is a messed up movie.

[nimueth]

Same. I don't know what it is about older animation, but they could be very disturbing. This and the pink elephant parade from Dumbo fucked me up as a child.

[dani_phantasma]

OH MY GOD yes this is the big issue i had with Pinnochio growing up Its such an unpleasant ass movie with a twisted moral of "be good or you'll be turned into an animal and essentially TRAFFICKED (sold--- trafficked?) into slavery... and you'll DESERVE it.

I've honestly had a few creative ideas that are a take on the concept of pleasure island but eventually a take that to the fucked up message . We don't need to be threatening kids into being compliant and convenient to adults. We need to be teaching adults to treat kids better.

[(Anonymous)]

Its such an unpleasant ass movie

I see what you did there.

[dani_phantasma]

LOL yup totalllly intentional LOL

[(Anonymous)]

On one hand, yes it's horrifying in itself, but on the other hand, in the era of Epstein and of 13 year olds running away with their adult "boyfriends" they met online, "strange adults who groom you into giving them emotional and physical power over you with promises of fun might be planning something really, really bad for you" isn't the worst message for kids to hear

[(Anonymous)]

Well, no, they don't deserve such a fate. But that's a part of the cautionary tale. Your punishment is to be harsher than your crime. Why? Because that'll scare you not to do it, that's why!

At least, that's always been my reading of it.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's partly the "scared straight" aspect, but partly that in real life your punishment is frequently harsher than your crime, especially for kids. There's a reason why so many old children's stories are variations on "don't trust the stranger with candy and a tempting shortcut."

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AYRT
Good point! I have indeed experienced many times having received harsh punishment for small missteps, or a tried taking a shortcut only to be met with new trials and tribulations that could have been avoided had I actually listened to warnings not to take shortcuts or slack off on my responsibilities.

[(Anonymous)]

The donkey scene scared my cousin so bad...