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⌈ Secret Post #7026 ⌋

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Characters you disagree with fandom on

[philstar22]

Are there characters you disagree with the general fandom consensus on? Hated characters you love, loved characters you hate, or just characters where you disagree with the usual interpretation?

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[kaijinscendre]

A lot of kid characters. Sam Anderson in The Walking Dead, Olly in Game of Thrones, and Dakota's character in War of the Worlds. I can't stand people hating on kids for doing normal kid things.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

I liked Olly, too. I don’t consider him a kid doing kid things though. Even with maturity he wouldn’t have been any less in the right for his views. And I do think he and the others were in the right. Jon Snow was directly and indirectly responsible for so much of the carnage that happened in Westeros.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[kaijinscendre]

Oh yeah, Olly was right and I'm glad he killed Ygritte. Genuinely, Jon thought with his dick most of time. Any time he found a woman hot, people got murdered.

Beating a dead horse at this point, but I'll say it.

[(Anonymous)]

Tony Stark. I ended up hating him by the end of MCU (I noped out after the first Thanos movie) but I doubley hate the fandom version of him.

Re: Beating a dead horse at this point, but I'll say it.

[kaijinscendre]

Sammeeeeeeeeee. Well, I can still read Steve/Tony fic but otherwise don't care for him.

Re: Beating a dead horse at this point, but I'll say it.

[philstar22]

Totally agree. I liked him a lot in the first two Iron Man movies. He was okay in Avengers. After that he got annoying, especially when everything always centered around him even in other people's movies.

Re: Beating a dead horse at this point, but I'll say it.

[(Anonymous)]

Yuuuup. I only got into the Marvel movies because I loved Tony Stark but holy shit did they completely ruin his character. I can't stand MCU!Stark anymore.

Re: Beating a dead horse at this point, but I'll say it.

[(Anonymous)]

Always a good thing to hear! Very much agree!

Re: Beating a dead horse at this point, but I'll say it.

[(Anonymous)]

I loved his first two movies, but then his shit in Ultron turned me off ("That was never my life" he said to the people who stared down one of his bombs, when his whole hero origin was staring at one of his bombs and realizing how responsible he was whether he liked it or not), and everything after that just made him worse.

Re: Beating a dead horse at this point, but I'll say it.

[(Anonymous)]

That's such a popular opinion everywhere I go... I forget that there are mainstream MCU fans who never got sick of him, but yeah. I feel you.

Related, I hate Bucky Barnes-- I suppose that's a little hyperbolic, I don't generally *care* enough about Bucky to hate him, but I hate stucky, and my hatred for the ship makes the character less palatable just because I know people who love stucky, and I don't want to yuck a friend's yum, but like... I hated Civil War so much, and for so long I could not get away from how it was the shippiest movie in the world and their love is so yadda yadda yadda.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

I liked Dawn on Buffy. Yeah she was a whiny bratty younger sister but I kind of loved that about her.

I am sad that she didn't turn out to be magical in any way. I always thought a person made from magic should have something. Not all powerful, and I get the whole "power in being normal" thing they were going for I just didn't really like it.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[philstar22]

I like Dawn too. She was honestly realistic to me.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

As the youngest, I got her. But I also started watching the show after it aired. I think it would've been a huge adjustment for me had I not known her character was coming.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

Dawn is my fav Buffy character! <3

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[tabaqui]

She grated at first, but I really grew to enjoy her, in the end. Now when I re-watch, I really like her. :D

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't think Shane was that bad in The Long Game.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[greghousesgf]

I liked Billie in Boardwalk Empire and was really surprised the first time I heard a lot of the fans disliked her intensely.
Also, I heard some CSI New York fans think Lindsay is a Mary Sue and I don't think she is at all.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think I've ever hated (or even strongly disliked) any of the main female characters that seem to have been broadly hated in certain popular TV shows. Examples that spring to mind: Meredith from Grey's Anatomy, Piper from Orange Is The New Black, Marissa from The OC.

Admittedly, I didn't watch any of the associated shows all the way through, so it's entirely possible I might've grown to dislike those characters by the end. But people were already hating on the characters at the point in time when I was still keeping up with those shows.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

Lorelai Gilmore was mostly a really good parent, IMO. I've seen a lot of criticism of her parenting in more recent years, but I just don't see it. I am a firm believer that you absolutely can (and probably should) be friends with your kids - as long as you are also able to provide a reasonably stable home environment and you are willing and able to assert boundaries when it comes to the undeniably important stuff. In my view, Lorelai did that, so the fact that she was a cool, fun mom who was genuinely friends with her kid is not a problem to me.

I'm not factoring anything that happens in A Year In The Life into my opinion of her parenting. I never watched it and I have no desire to.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

Space Marine 2 - Leandros

Look, he's a dick. He turns the player character in for heresy in game 1. There's a whole subreddit called FuckLeandros. He's *hated*. The haters come up with reasons to hate him: he broke the rules by reporting the PC (fanon, almost certainly untrue), becoming a Chaplain was a punishment (absolute nonsense, Chaplains are respected and appreciated), and Papa Smurf hates him (total nonsense, Calgar could have stopped his promotion.)

And I kind of love him.

He is absolutely a dick, he is absolutely a kill joy, he is absolutely a paranoid freak, and that's PERFECT! He is carrying the setting* On! His! Back! Without Leandros the game is apologetically Pro-IoM, Ultra Marines are the Best Guys and everything they do is right actually. So I love Leadros as a part of the story. It's important to me that the IoM fucks *us* over because no amount of flying zombie baby cyborgs are as impactful as the player feeling personally slighted.

*Warhammer 40k runs on the logic that Everyone Is The Bad Guy and the Imperium of Man is Bad Actually (tm) in part because it is a paranoid, fascist, inefficient hellscape.

But there's more than that! He did something he *knew* was right (reporting Titus for suspected heresy/chaos taint) and it *was* right by all the rules on which he bases his life (fite me) BUT IT STILL TURNED OUT BAD! Titus passed all the tests but was still tortured for a century and kept away from the Ultra Marines for another century. My man could have *GUILT* ok? For as much as these dweebs are Catholic Space Nazis none of them have GUILT and finding a character who could is so D E L I C I O U S ok I lap it up. Plus his helmet is badass. Plus he is *so* obsessed Titus I can't help but want them to kiss.

basically whenever reditors go FUCK LEANDROS I respond with I"M TRYING

(Also, there is so much hot art of Erebus who is so unrepentant evil and dickish I miiiiiight be falling for him too omg I am putting up pitons about that one help help help)

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[tabaqui]

Willow from Buffy. Disliked her from episode one, continued to dislike her, and ended up loathing her by the end. Just...no.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

Julie Taylor in Friday Night Lights

People hated how annoying and bratty she was.
But Julie was my girl!! Making mistakes so many other kids her age make, and it annoyed me how people hated how Julie slept with a married guy (who lied to her!!! And he was a TA in one of her classes, he was the shitbag, not her), and then ran off home and then ran to Chicago.

Yet many of those who hurled shit at her loved Tim Riggins. Even after he slept with his best friend's girlfriend as a means to cope with said best friend becoming disabled, even after he dropped out of college after sitting down in one class and not wanting to be there, after getting his brother roped into chopping cars.

Don't get me wrong, I love Tim Riggins.
But I get frustrated when people can root for a man who fucks up a lot but means well, yet they can't do the same for a woman who fucks up but means well.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

Most female characters in any given piece of media tbh, in that I am sat there enjoying them for who they are while to the fandom they’re ‘annoying’ or ‘a waste of space’ or ‘mean’ because they’re not being passive tools in the narrative.

I think fictional women should be meaner.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

Ryou Bakura. I HATE THAT MUPPET!