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⌈ Secret Post #7026 ⌋

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General comments:

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Characters you disagree with fandom on

[philstar22]

Are there characters you disagree with the general fandom consensus on? Hated characters you love, loved characters you hate, or just characters where you disagree with the usual interpretation?

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[kaijinscendre]

A lot of kid characters. Sam Anderson in The Walking Dead, Olly in Game of Thrones, and Dakota's character in War of the Worlds. I can't stand people hating on kids for doing normal kid things.

Beating a dead horse at this point, but I'll say it.

[(Anonymous)]

Tony Stark. I ended up hating him by the end of MCU (I noped out after the first Thanos movie) but I doubley hate the fandom version of him.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

I liked Dawn on Buffy. Yeah she was a whiny bratty younger sister but I kind of loved that about her.

I am sad that she didn't turn out to be magical in any way. I always thought a person made from magic should have something. Not all powerful, and I get the whole "power in being normal" thing they were going for I just didn't really like it.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't think Shane was that bad in The Long Game.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[greghousesgf]

I liked Billie in Boardwalk Empire and was really surprised the first time I heard a lot of the fans disliked her intensely.
Also, I heard some CSI New York fans think Lindsay is a Mary Sue and I don't think she is at all.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think I've ever hated (or even strongly disliked) any of the main female characters that seem to have been broadly hated in certain popular TV shows. Examples that spring to mind: Meredith from Grey's Anatomy, Piper from Orange Is The New Black, Marissa from The OC.

Admittedly, I didn't watch any of the associated shows all the way through, so it's entirely possible I might've grown to dislike those characters by the end. But people were already hating on the characters at the point in time when I was still keeping up with those shows.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

Lorelai Gilmore was mostly a really good parent, IMO. I've seen a lot of criticism of her parenting in more recent years, but I just don't see it. I am a firm believer that you absolutely can (and probably should) be friends with your kids - as long as you are also able to provide a reasonably stable home environment and you are willing and able to assert boundaries when it comes to the undeniably important stuff. In my view, Lorelai did that, so the fact that she was a cool, fun mom who was genuinely friends with her kid is not a problem to me.

I'm not factoring anything that happens in A Year In The Life into my opinion of her parenting. I never watched it and I have no desire to.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

Space Marine 2 - Leandros

Look, he's a dick. He turns the player character in for heresy in game 1. There's a whole subreddit called FuckLeandros. He's *hated*. The haters come up with reasons to hate him: he broke the rules by reporting the PC (fanon, almost certainly untrue), becoming a Chaplain was a punishment (absolute nonsense, Chaplains are respected and appreciated), and Papa Smurf hates him (total nonsense, Calgar could have stopped his promotion.)

And I kind of love him.

He is absolutely a dick, he is absolutely a kill joy, he is absolutely a paranoid freak, and that's PERFECT! He is carrying the setting* On! His! Back! Without Leandros the game is apologetically Pro-IoM, Ultra Marines are the Best Guys and everything they do is right actually. So I love Leadros as a part of the story. It's important to me that the IoM fucks *us* over because no amount of flying zombie baby cyborgs are as impactful as the player feeling personally slighted.

*Warhammer 40k runs on the logic that Everyone Is The Bad Guy and the Imperium of Man is Bad Actually (tm) in part because it is a paranoid, fascist, inefficient hellscape.

But there's more than that! He did something he *knew* was right (reporting Titus for suspected heresy/chaos taint) and it *was* right by all the rules on which he bases his life (fite me) BUT IT STILL TURNED OUT BAD! Titus passed all the tests but was still tortured for a century and kept away from the Ultra Marines for another century. My man could have *GUILT* ok? For as much as these dweebs are Catholic Space Nazis none of them have GUILT and finding a character who could is so D E L I C I O U S ok I lap it up. Plus his helmet is badass. Plus he is *so* obsessed Titus I can't help but want them to kiss.

basically whenever reditors go FUCK LEANDROS I respond with I"M TRYING

(Also, there is so much hot art of Erebus who is so unrepentant evil and dickish I miiiiiight be falling for him too omg I am putting up pitons about that one help help help)

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[tabaqui]

Willow from Buffy. Disliked her from episode one, continued to dislike her, and ended up loathing her by the end. Just...no.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

Julie Taylor in Friday Night Lights

People hated how annoying and bratty she was.
But Julie was my girl!! Making mistakes so many other kids her age make, and it annoyed me how people hated how Julie slept with a married guy (who lied to her!!! And he was a TA in one of her classes, he was the shitbag, not her), and then ran off home and then ran to Chicago.

Yet many of those who hurled shit at her loved Tim Riggins. Even after he slept with his best friend's girlfriend as a means to cope with said best friend becoming disabled, even after he dropped out of college after sitting down in one class and not wanting to be there, after getting his brother roped into chopping cars.

Don't get me wrong, I love Tim Riggins.
But I get frustrated when people can root for a man who fucks up a lot but means well, yet they can't do the same for a woman who fucks up but means well.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

Most female characters in any given piece of media tbh, in that I am sat there enjoying them for who they are while to the fandom they’re ‘annoying’ or ‘a waste of space’ or ‘mean’ because they’re not being passive tools in the narrative.

I think fictional women should be meaner.

Re: Characters you disagree with fandom on

[(Anonymous)]

Ryou Bakura. I HATE THAT MUPPET!

Characters you kind of wished you loved

[(Anonymous)]

Brought to you by a comment in the other thread. Are there characters you wish you could get into? For example, maybe you wish you cared about the popular ship in your fandom just for the wide variety of fic they get.

Re: Characters you kind of wished you loved

[kaijinscendre]

Dennis Whitaker on The Pitt because Hucklerobby is the biggest ship. But I just do not like him.

Jon Snow or Daenerys but I found them both incredibly boring characters.

Spock or Kirk so I could get into Spirk but McCoy is the only character I really enjoy.

Re: Characters you kind of wished you loved

[philstar22]

Sansa, Jon, Robb, or any of the Starks really. I liked Arya okay and was meh on the rest.

Any version of Spider-Man really. I just find him really meh. I don't actively dislike, I just get bored. Still only seen the first two movies of the Tobey versions, none of the Garfield ones, and only one of the MCU ones.

Turin, would make that story more interesting if I actually liked Turin. I love his father, but Turin is mostly a dick.

Re: Characters you kind of wished you loved

[(Anonymous)]

Spike. Everyone loves him and I just don’t get it.

Re: Characters you kind of wished you loved

[(Anonymous)]

I wish I liked Karlach.

Re: Characters you kind of wished you loved

[(Anonymous)]

I wish I liked Zoro enough to even remotely care about ships that he's majorly part of (Zolu/Zosan) but no, I had to pick the less popular ship. I will be in my little Zosopp corner making them kiss.

Old (Wo)Man Yells at Cloud

[(Anonymous)]

I think I’m just getting old and losing my patience for people. The number of posts I’ve seen in my main subreddit asking the same questions or posting the same dollar store merch makes me want to scream. And it isn’t just fandom; I bought new software today despite all the warnings about the “steep learning curve” and when I launched it the first time I thought I must be overlooking something because it’s very simple. I watched some of the tutorial videos and it turns out that the “hard” stuff is learning how to expand a branch in the file tree (not that they call it that; “look for the folder icon and click, then click any plus signs you see.” Everything is point and click. These people would absolutely die if they had to work with embroidery software or pre-cloud versions of Adobe Suite. I feel like I’m surrounded by idiots while also knowing none of this is a big deal and I should just get over it. Usually I don’t really think much about it or maybe privately roll my eyes. But some days…

Anyone else ever have days like this?

Re: Old (Wo)Man Yells at Cloud

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, we are in a race to the bottom.

What dollar store merch?

Re: Old (Wo)Man Yells at Cloud

[(Anonymous)]

Had someone ask how to use AO3 the other day. And I don't mean "how to post" or "how to make a site skin" or "how to make a collection." Literally the question was "how do I read a story." *facepalm*

Re: Old (Wo)Man Yells at Cloud

[(Anonymous)]

LOL, just about every day I have days like that. I think part of the problem is that technology has advanced so rapidly, it's dizzying. When I was a teenager, the internet was in its infancy and the obstacle of 1) having the proper, very expensive equipment to access it and 2) knowing how to access it kept a lot of people out. But when newer tech came along that made it easier to get online, you got a flood people who knew (mostly) how to use this shiny new tech, but didn't know how the tech itself worked and their grasp of the internet was wobbly at best.

A couple decades ago, I worked with a lady who didn't understand how to use computers AT ALL. You'd explain that to access this program, she needed to click on this icon and she just... didn't know what an icon was. You'd point it out to her, and to her, it was just a little picture, and the desktop was also a picture so she'd be clicking on the desktop wallpaper and wondering how come Excel wasn't opening up. It wasn't entirely her fault, it's just that stuff had developed at the speed of light from her perspective, and she couldn't keep up.

Non-fandom arguments.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know if it's me getting older or what, but getting into an argument just leaves me stressed and on edge now even if I know I'm right, or even after it's over. My last big argument was about boundaries with a parent, where I refused to answer questions about a personal matter. (And the reason why I refuse to answer questions is because this parent is very judgmental and likes to weaponize information.) The parent pushed and pushed and pushed until I snapped at them, and then of course, they made ME out to be the bad guy. I'm still struggling to not hate their guts and not cut them out of my life forever. It's not that they're irredeemably awful, it's just I just don't want to deal with them anymore.

The second argument was over some fact-based thing. Basically a friend and I are working on a group project and friend says that X thing was a historical fact, and I can point to credible sources that say no, it wasn't. But the friend insists that they did their research and they're sure that X was a fact. I just gave up because... whatever, right? But I'm still stressed about it. It does involve me, I don't want to look like a lazy person who doesn't research stuff! But it's not like it'll make a huge difference in the long run. I just hate it when people aren't sensible.