[ SECRET POST #7031 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #7031 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Orange is the New Black, Supergirl, The 100, Glee, Once Upon a Time, Korra/sequel to Avatar the last Airbender, Adventure Time, Camilla the webseries and Undertale]



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Notes:

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I’m sorry that you don’t know how to build a custom filter list for your fandoms. You would have been really screwed back in the days before AO3. The many fic archives that went dark without warning and are the actual inspiration for AO3 would have been impossible for you to use.

[iff_and_xor]

You know, I’m not sure I know how to do this. Is it done through some kind of added script or browser extension? Or do you just have a very, very long bit you manually inject into the URL?

[(Anonymous)]

I think there are browser extensions that will do it. I wrote mine in a text file that I just copy and paste. It’s much easier to navigate fandoms that have a lot of different media types. The ff.net crossover section wouldn’t work for a lot of fandoms because you would have to know which of the dozens of possibilities the author chose as the primary fandom. And for many the fic would automatically be a crossover because it blends parts from two or more canon sources within the same universe. An example of that is Rogue from the X-Men; it’s common to blend traits and abilities from the comics, the 90s cartoon, and the original trilogy movies. IIRC, ff.net only lets the author choose two fandoms for crossovers so that would make it even harder to find stuff.

[iff_and_xor]

Thanks, I should try to look for a browser extension. I used that copy and paste method for a while, but I think I lost it at some point.

I love a good crossover and it would be nice to have an automatic way to only include crossovers with at least one of the fandoms I know and like.

[(Anonymous)]

You are being snarky when not actually understanding the secret. They want to look at a non fandom specific page for crossovers. Or at least thats what people seem to want when this topic comes up.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it’s the line about AO3 spinning off from ff.net that’s rankling some people.

[pengilly]

You're not very bright, are you?

It took me a half hour PLUS (and getting rate limited) to make an exclusion list that would filter out every fandom that would get in the way of the Sonic/Zelda crossovers I wanted to see. Fanfiction.net simply required clicking on two or three filters, and you have a page dedicated to that crossover.

The whole reason AO3 is elevated above other sites in fandom spaces, and is seen as better than FFN and the predecessors (that had even more bare-bones filtering than FFN) is that it allows you to filter for your preferred fic, and get very specific about it.

Yet still has this huge blind spot compared to the "outdated" Fanfiction.net. With hidden search operators, you can get as hyper-specific as filtering for fics that only contain one relationship tag. Or even fics that only have two specific words in the summary. Yet you cannot filter for fics that only have two specific fandoms; you have to exclude them one by one. As I had to do here.

OP brought up a simple point of reference, which somehow managed to go completely over your head because you couldn't stop white knighting long enough to look at where OP was coming from.

Crossovers with only Sonic and Zelda-related fandoms

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, I had been wondering about that weird parenthetical about being a FFN spin-off, but I see now that it was not really an aside at all, was it?

[(Anonymous)]

I know exactly what OP meant. And I’m bright enough to string the queries together. They want a point and click option that cannot be retroactively applied on AO3 and cannot work for countless fandoms going forward. Their best course of action is learning how to use the tools they have (which is incredibly simple and the only time consuming part is typing it all out and even that is measured in minutes instead of hours) or wishing for an AI tool that will build the query for them. I should have been kinder in my comment but then so should you. My focus was more on the bullshit claim that AO3 is a spinoff of ff.net because it isn’t and I do think that people like OP who can’t understand are making it more difficult for themselves to understand how to use AO3 because they don’t understand what AO3 really is at the fundamental level. AO3 isn’t a fic reading site. It’s an archive and you can read the entries on it. There is a huge difference between those two. But until another fic reading site comes along, fans will continue to use AO3 as a reading site while struggling because they don’t know what an archive is or how to use one.

[amalthia]

I think the true difficulty for crossovers is when you're in a fandom like DCU, Marvel, Star Wars, MDZS, if I want a crossover with Marvel and Star Wars, I can't just select the "Crossover" button in the filter list. Sure you can setup exclusions but it's a time consuming task compared to how FF.net worked.

It doesn't matter how bright someone is or isn't, it's a pain in the ass to find crossovers on Ao3 compared to FF.net.