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⌈ Secret Post #1067 ⌋

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I completely do not agree. I'm not a fanfic writer/fan artist/anything else in fandom, so I'm not defending myself in that, though I suppose I'm defending a habit of mine. I don't think you really understand the person's intentions when they write that. True, sometimes people may just be fishing for compliments. But please understand that a lot of people genuinely have very low self-esteem and find it extremely difficult to take pride in the things they produce. Even if they don't like it, I think they'll hope that someone else at least will (therefore, the reason for posting it). And even if a part of them does like it, or if they like a part of it, then if you have that negative mindset, saying such things as 'this is kinda crappy' in the summary is a defence mechanism. They HOPE someone else will like it and make them feel better about it, but I think the main worry is that others will agree that their work is crap, and if that's the case, they can then point out that they said it first. Y'know, it gives them some cushioning from the blow. Try not to be too judgemental about it.

amen!

It's kind of like the laugh at yourself before others can laugh at you mentality, right? I think that's kind of how I view it, too. Incidentally, I tend to mention the flaws in something I've written because I want to demonstrate an awareness of my weak points rather than have someone reiterate what I already know. Makes for constructive feedback.

I certainly understand OP's gripes, though. Pretty sure I've steered away from fic that contain such lines, too. It doesn't really bother me all that much; I just ignore it and don't think much of it. Hopefully the author/artist will create something they consider worthwhile and get past that habit. When that happens, I might revisit their older works. \o/

I can understand maybe not having faith in an author's/artist's work because of their self-deprecation and choosing to skip over it, it's the judging of that person because of their self-deprecation that gets to me. Not everyone has an ulterior motive all the time :(

Yeah, same here. I always figured people were genuinely worried about their work, not just waiting for others to pat them on the back. Though really, there isn't really anything wrong with people wanting compliments as long as they aren't laughing diabolically over it. ("Mwahahahha, I successfully got people to feel bad for me and praise me in the process!") I've always figured that we post things because we want to be acknowledged and appreciated.

Haha! I'm imagining these diabolical schemers cackling to themselves and wringing their hands in evil pleasure in front of their computer screens now XD

Seriously, though, completely agree with you.

I didn't want to sound judgemental, but if it did then it wasn't my intention. I suppose I wanted to sound more like a pep talk ha.

Anyways, while I'm aware that there are people out there with more severe self-esteem issues, there are even more people, I found, who are just fishing for comments or writing things like that simply because they really don't know what else to write on their summary. I'm not putting down people who really have these issues and are trying to work through them. I guess I didn't communicate very well that I think most, not all, of the people who do this don't suffer from intense negative mind-sets and need to stop because it does get old, and even that little confidence can improve their work so that it doesn't 'suck'.

Ah, I getcha. Pep talks are important for such people I think. And it's a shame when people use such self-deprecating comments to garner compliments when there are people with genuine low self-esteem who struggle to take pride in their work. It's like (but on a completely different scale, of course) people who practically brag about self-harm when there are so many people who truly suffer.

This, thank you. I think most of the responses to this are needlessly judgmental and really make the responders look like jerks (at least when it comes to this issue). Thanks for flat-out saying that you want to make one of my friends with horribly low self-esteem, who only posts her fics because her friends encourage her to, feel even worse about herself and her ability. Fuckin' A.

If she ever gets a reply like that and stops sharing her stuff (which I love) with people, period, I am going to falcon punch a bitch through the Internet. :|

As someone who doesn't read fics who have this sorts of comments I'll explain my thought process for you.

I've posted things I think suck. I think they suck hard core for whatever reasons. But I've posted them because it was for a prompt-challenge and I just wanted it gone. I don't see why I would ever tell anyone that I thought that particular fic sucked. If I'm being genuine about saying I think my fic sucks it's basically telling anyone that comments positively that I think they have terrible taste. (The particular fic I'm refering to has a dozen or so positive comments and a number of favs at the fandom archive.) Why would I want to insult my potential readers that way?

If people comment then I know I did something right for someone. If no one comments then I know I was right in my assessment. Telling people I think this particular fic is awful is either insulting to the reviewers or blatant comment whoring. I honestly can't see it any other way.

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