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⌈ Secret Post #7076 ⌋

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[fscom]

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Transcript by OP

[fscom]

IMO Contrapoint's fall from grace is essentially the leftists' version of discovering the figurehead that radicalized you is just a grifter who wants fame and money.

Sad because I learned a lot from Natalie Wynn. But we don't have time to coddle someone who simply critiques and does nothing.
The revolution will not be televised or tweeted. Anyone telling you so is trying to take your money and keep you immobile.

[(Anonymous)]

You learned a lot from Natalie Wynn? LOL seriously?

[(Anonymous)]

You sound like someone who thinks they're smart. Here's some advice: Nobody who sneers at someone else's way of coming to know what they know is smart.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe I'm just stupid but I'm not sure I understand what this is about. Like I've seen people mad about Contrapoints but that's all been for like, inadvisable posting, not grifting/insincerity?

[(Anonymous)]

Did Contrapoints fall from grace? I need details

[(Anonymous)]

DA
Yeah, I haven't heard anything.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know what happened with Contrapoints, but if she's being shredded by leftists for critiquing and doing nothing, they're hypocrites. Critiquing and doing nothing is all the "radical" leftie we-hate-liberals internet does.

[hey_hey_hey]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair, radical internet lefties also hate all other radical internet lefties for not being radical enough or left enough (or evil crimes like denouncing or not denouncing someone in exactly the right way), so a bit more hypocrisy isn't going to make a difference.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't heard anything about her fall from grace... which is kind of surprising if there has been a big Thing.

[(Anonymous)]

She's a video essayist? What do you expect her to do, exactly? She's not an elected official.

I've heard murmurs against her, and I guess she hasn't published much lately, but I have no idea what it's really about.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't agree with absolute everything that she says, but I always hear about her falling from grace every few months or so because of a Tweet or another she made and people disagree with, then never get more details about any of it.

What confuses me is that I never thought her as particularly political in her videos, it has always been more about philosophy or essays. I like her high production, so I'll probably still watch. She is my Mister Beast I guess.

[hey_hey_hey]

What broke internet Leftists more: The Basil firebomb tweet or that Contrapoints meme?

[(Anonymous)]

For those wondering what the confessor is ranting about, Contra has been cutting ties with far left people in the online space and becoming more of a normie lib. Naturally everyone is super duper mad about it especially since it means less caahhhnteeeent from Youtube for people to listen to on a second screen while they play a videogame. Contra is a contrarian *badum tish* and far left people are extremely annoying so she's been purging her relationships with a lot of them. But there has not been a big watershed moment or call out or anything like that. Contra is just moving to the popular girls table and the nerds are big mad.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I'm also a normie lib, so I don't blame her.

Internet leftists are annoying as hell. Doordash Tankies.

[(Anonymous)]

When was she not a normie lib? I mean, "normie lib" just means "not a literal self-described communist who regularly calls themselves commie" right? Was she ever that?

[(Anonymous)]

I thought it was more than that. It believed it was a mix of what happened with "Joanne" (pseudonym), falling out with Philosophytube, dealing with Twitter cancel mobs salivating to harass a trans woman for ANYTHING, and the fallout from the 2024 election... I don't blame her. I've been going through similar things with far lefty ex friends.

[(Anonymous)]

Man, this comment section is kind of a mess but I think the subcommunity of leftist politics where Contrapoints built her base and which later viciously turned on her is always a hot mess (to be clear, in a way that long predates and has nothing to do with Contrapoints and which will presumably continue to be the case long into the future), so it doesn't really surprise me that no one here seems to have an idea of what happened to Contrapoints or just have a completely inaccurate understanding/analysis (like OP in the secret, as well as the person above me saying Contrapoints is a normie lib now).

She's talked about what happened to her a lot in her videos and obviously, that's very much from her perspective/her portrayal of what went down, but whenever I independently run across a Contrapoints hater in the wild, they very much match her account of what happened, namely they're just the kind of woker-than-thou internet yeller type of leftist who, whenever the left has a popular and charismatic figure, feels they must do everything in their power to tear them down and that this is how leftism wins, somehow. They're the kind of people who drive the exhausting, constant, self-destructive tall poppy syndrome / circular firing squad tendencies of the left.

Very different figure with quite different (although still lefty) politics, but you see the same thing with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez haters, who for some reason can't think of a more damaging and hateful person than AOC and spend all their energy attacking her.

I'm not saying either Contrapoints or AOC is perfect person with perfect politics, but they both definitely have WAY better politics than 90% of the U.S., but more than that (1) the left needs to be able to accept AT LEAST the amount of difference in opinion that Contrapoints and AOC represent if it wants to get anything done, and (2) notably, the *main reason* people attack these two is because they are prominent, charming, attractive, and really good at persuading people to be leftists.

Anyway, in Contrapoints' case, she's made some tweets mildly ridiculing the increasing tendency among the trans community to not require either physical or social transition in order to count in as trans, and was friendly with an old-fashioned trans person who had similar more gatekeepy opinions about how much gender dysphoria you need to experience to count as a trans person which obviously puts both of them out of step with younger trans people. Like, I get why her opinions are considered outre among the trans community but this very much is an obscure internecine leftist fight; mainstream society does not give a fuck on how much gender dysphoria you experience to be considered a trans person -- they hate all trans people and any whiff of "gender ideology."

But those opinions were considered reactionary enough that people basically started portraying Contrapoints as a snake in the grass -- someone who seems woke and leftist but is deeply reactionary and hateful and someone using their platform to enact great harm on trans people etc. etc.

She went quiet for a while while this was going on and while people were putting pressure on her fellow Breadtube creators to cut ties with her, then came back and talked about how the experience affected and shook her and then eventually went on to make more video essays doing leftist theory/book analysis much in line with what she was doing before. Her politics have not changed.

This apparently is being portrayed here as "Contrapoints being a grifter that cares more about fame and money" (presumably because she went back to posting video essays despite how miserable an experience people made it for her) and "Contrapoints is a normie lib and contrarian who moved on to a new audience." She really didn't. She no longer feels beholden to the portion of her fanbase who led a vicious campaign her against when she had a political disagreement with them, and she made a video criticizing the worst and most vicious tendencies of the left, which obviously the worst leftists you know interpreted as her doubling down on her reactionary bigotry and moving right, when her politics haven't changed. (Which, by the way, is wild -- most of the time, people who get viciously cancelled by the left do start palling around with fascists (see Laci Green, for example), but I stress that this DIDN'T happen in Contrapoints' case, despite people's depictions otherwise.) Being able to criticize the circular firing squad tendencies of the left is not only 100% compatible with being a leftist but also I think sometimes necessary to keep your sanity in this portion of the political spectrum.

[(Anonymous)]

What about her Palestine takes though, you didn't mention any of it. I think that's mostly why people hate her now

[(Anonymous)]

I thought all that stuff was years old. Everyone needs to get the fuck off of twitter, it hurts the soul I s2g

[(Anonymous)]

She was always more liberal than leftist. That was clear from her character videos where the hard leftist Tabby was portrayed as misguided compared to more centrist figures like Justine. But yeah, for as much as she might argue that leftists posting on twitter don't achieve anything, what does she really think she's gonna achieve by posting on twitter about them?

It's a case of laying with dogs and getting flees. She's not gonna get reasonable debate from twitter or going on podcasts that are literally called Bad Faith. To quote her own video: "Our America, our internet, is not ancient Athens—it’s Rome. And your problem is you think you’re in the forum, when you’re really in the circus"

[(Anonymous)]

impersonators are liars

news at ten

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, no kidding!

[(Anonymous)]

It's because she's not sucking Hasan's rich, nepo dick.