[ SECRET POST #7078 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #7078 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 39 secrets from Secret Submission Post #1011.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

There are some examples in yesterday's secret collection post.

Re: Ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Unless you're admitting to being the author of every single HP secret, how would they know it's you to target, though?

Re: Ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

I should have just said bullying because admittedly "people who make HP secrets" don't technically qualify as targets.

Re: Ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Yeah I would say they seem to be firing at anyone who expresses a positive opinion of anything HP at all, didn't seem like they had anyone in mind. It didn't seem like it was only one HP secret maker or commenter either, at least to me. My comment there wasn't meant to imply there was only one or that you were them, fwiw, I think there are multiple.

On the other hand, they don't seem to be bullying to bully, rather genuinely angry about the subject. Expecting controversy seems like the norm about anything HP everywhere now though

Re: Ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

I just went and looked at the comments and didnt see any bullying or targeted attacks.

Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

I guess calling someone “delusional” comes under the heading of bullying. Though I was expecting something nastier from that description.

Re: Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

I wish the anti-trans asshole on FS would stop making Harry Potter secrets.

Do you think that qualifies as insulting language meant to control and intimidate others?

https://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/3411961.html?thread=1156748537#cmt1156748537

Re: Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

Honestly? No, not really

Ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, thanks, I didn’t go all the way down through the “Secrets you don’t want to make”.

I agree that “asshole” is clearly insulting. (Also “anti-trans” arguably, but that’s much more context-dependent.) I don’t think you can say there’s an intent to intimidate. To control? I guess so, since it publicly expresses a wish for someone to change their behavior.

Before this, I wouldn’t have considered that someone publicly saying at your workplace “Ugh, I wish that bigoted asshole coworker would stop talking about his love life” was bullying. (Rude and possibly passive-aggressive, absolutely.) But I guess it does hit those criteria. Thanks, food for thought!

Re: Ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

Eh... that's like saying someone who goes "I wish the repetitive asshole that keeps making shipping secrets would quit doing it" is "bullying" which seems like a stretch to me

Ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

I don’t disagree. But if that’s the definition people are using… I guess it’s worth re-evaluating the significance of “bullying”. It suggests to me that it’s a bigger umbrella that includes behavior I think of as merely rude as well as behavior I’d consider actually abusive and totally unacceptable in any online setting.

Re: Ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Hmm to me bullying must include a power imbalance. If it's between equals, it's just someone being rude. Which isn't a good thing either obviously but not bullying.

A boss tries to leverage their corporate role, or a "popular" coworker tries to leverage their social status and work friend group to coerce you into shutting up about your love life? Bullying. A coworker of totally equal rank to you expresses a wish, or some rando on the street tells you to shut the fuck up? Not bullying, rude tho

Re: Ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

Interesting discussion.

Do you think antis display bullying behavior by using an arguable power imbalance (moral high ground) to control others?

I'm not comparing antis to trans users and allies here who understandably feel upset by HP content. But I sometimes wonder if we have some bad faith actors here who are using the transphobe umbrella to troll or to try to make the trans community seem a little unhinged. I mean, at least once a week there's a secret about someone being mad about HP secrets, and I guess I don't understand the intent.

Re: Ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I think antis can display bullying behavior. Deliberately summoning totally unrelated people to brigade a post and harass a poster through superior numbers is bullying for sure. However if someone posts something unpopular and the regular members of the community disagree angrily, or you post an angry opinion that only speaks for yourself, I don't think that counts as a power imbalance being wielded by someone. In the same vein a lone anti being angry by themselves ranting in a public Discord channel is not bullying anyone. Still rude tho obviously