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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-12-16 09:21 am

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Because I'm getting tons of PMs and stuff about this: stuff featuring actual porn of lolicon/shota/whatever will be linked, or was supposed to be just linked, just like every other secret featuring explicit porn. But sometimes I make mistakes and a secret gets by that should have been just linked. If a secret is posted that should be linked or warned for, notify me in the name the fandom thread and I'll fix it as soon as I can.

Unfortunately, secrets about lolicon/shota will not be banned because some people think it's wrong or gross or whatever. Some people think fic about rape or gore is wrong or gross or whatever. Some people think slash is wrong or gross or whatever. I'm sure everyone agrees that actual child porn is a bad thing. Lolicon/shota is not actual child porn.

Once again, I'm sorry for letting #127 get past my radar yesterday, and will try not to let it happen again.

[identity profile] saramiskismet.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Um if it was homosexual RAPE than yeah, but if it's just boys kissing that shouldn't be any more triggering than heterosexual kissing.

And if it's a religious thing? Then is seeing people lying/being atheist also offensive?

(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Who are you to tell other people what they should and shouldn't be triggered by?

[identity profile] saramiskismet.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
First of all, kissing is typically not considered NSFW and any other homosexual acts would be considered NSFW so these people are warned before they even click the link. Technophile has a policy of keeping rape/molestation/outright porn as links and not visible even behind the cut, so people don't expect to see it by clicking the cut. So if it's kissing, they are warned before hand that subjects are NSFW and they may not want to view.

If they ARE triggered by kissing, they probably have enough problems walking down the street seeing couples, so I don't exactly know how to protect them from that.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Something can be NSFW and not be a trigger and something can be a trigger but still be SFW.

I was asking about same-sex kissing specifically. Don't you see how someone who was raped or molested by a same-sex peer as a child and grew up in a society that can outright demonize homosexual behaviour might be triggered by seeing sexual samesex contact? Even something like a samesex kiss?

[identity profile] fireholly.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Whoo defending the hypothetical. Double whoo for defending poor widdle homophobes.

Why am I still in this thread. You're either a troll or one of the stupidest and most unintentionally offensive people I've ever seen.

[identity profile] saramiskismet.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
That's like saying because someone got punched by a black kid they have a right to be afraid/angered by all black people just walking around being black people.

If someone has a problem like that, it borders on prejudice, and it's sad that it's caused by a traumatic experience, but it is an innocent fact of life, unlike rape and molestation which are ALWAYS violent and wrong. Girls who are raped by boys don't usually have problems seeing loving contact between heterosexuals. In fact, seeing it can be a way to heal, to show the person that the contact is not necessarily violent or bad.

[identity profile] fireholly.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for being so awesome and keeping your cool better than me.

[identity profile] iapetusneume.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I just want to agree with you, and also say that there every group has its bad apples. Thank you for being more eloquent than I in being able to point that out.

[identity profile] 9kinds.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not about telling other people what they are allowed to be triggered by, I'm sure there exists a person out there triggered by something as innocent seeming to the average person as a kiss. However, when everyone's personal experiences vary, it is simply impossible to know and cover every single base. I think it's reasonable that there is a line, graphic content and common triggers are often warned for.