[ SECRET POST #106 ]

[degrees.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #106 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 95 secrets from Secret Submission Post #016.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Sunday, April 22th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: Here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[grayout.livejournal.com]

Copy-pasted upon demand.

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Why do people not understand that yaoi/slash/shounen-ai/whateverthehell, are NOT the same thing?

"lol it's all gay/boy-on-boy/whatever"

Right, 'cause hardcore man/woman porn = D/s het fantasies = fluffy chick flicks = romance novels = nonfiction het relationships = realistic fictional het relationships, it's all heterosexual relationships! If you like one you surely like the others, too!! Let's get over ourselves, they're not different at all.

Whatever.

ETA: Yeah, so it's a touchy subject for me. But I hate hate hate hate when people are all "I know yaoi isn't realistic!" and then are all "eee yaoi!" whenever there's -anything- gay regardless of whether it's actually yaoi-themed or not.

If I happen to like some guy, it's not fucking "yaoi" goddammit. It's just me liking some guy. Do not ask me who is seme or uke. Do NOT say "lol u must be uke because u look it." You know what, don't even assume there IS a seme or uke at all. HI GUYS THIS IS NOT YAOI. "Gay" works. "Homo" works. Just like "het" covers everything. Yaoi DOES NOT. I would hate so hard to live in a yaoi story. I'm sure most people would too.

What does that say? That says yaoi has themes. That means it's a sub-genre of "gay." It's like saying "sci-fi," another sub-genre in the blanket genre of "action/adventure." If you called PotC "sci-fi" would people think you're an idiot? YES. Because you'd be WRONG. How about "romance" as an overarching genre, and "historical drama" as a subgenre? Lol, does that mean "She's All That" is a historical drama? According to the original reasoning, of course it does!

aeghaetjghaetk gay people/gay literature (albeit fandom-based) have diverse relationships/themes too, dammit.

[sarajayechan.livejournal.com]

...Damn, you're as right as the person who made the secret. D: Is it okay if I agree with you both?

[grayout.livejournal.com]

Sure! I mean for the record, I'm not all LOL SLASH >> YAOI or YAOI >> SLASH, I'm just pointing out that like yes, sure, it's all gay but they're genres of gay. *dies*

[sarajayechan.livejournal.com]

I hate when people wank over terms, but it boggles me when people call a story about two American schoolboys holding hands and sharing meaningful glances "yaoi".

[descorde.livejournal.com]

Word^3438375985. (uh, grayout btw.)

[pretentioustfu.livejournal.com]

Actually, I agree with grayout as well. I think the secret maker was going after the terms-wank, especially since not all people interpret yaoi as being seme/uke or slash as being equal (some of us, like me, prefer the terms to describe country of canon origin: Japanese stuff is yaoi, Western is slash, and so on.)

[prototypical]

I do the same.

[degrees.livejournal.com]

SO MUCH AGREEMENT. Just because a word or phrase means technically the same thing doesn't mean that there aren't differences, or nuances, or other such things that make it unique!

[descorde.livejournal.com]

Seriously! Like romance novel and chick flick? You could be all uh yeah, they're like the same thing, but they're NOT (you know, besides the obvious different media). Blarg. And stuff. D:

[longlongwaytogo.livejournal.com]

Oh gosh I so totally agree with this it's not funny.