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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-03-18 05:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #1169 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1169 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.


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102.
[Kristian Digby]


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103.
[fantastic mr fox]


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104.
[i like strangers with candy on exit 57]


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105.
[The Princess and the Frog]


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106.
[Franz Kafka/Sayonara Zetsubou-sensei]


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107.
[Kids in the Hall]


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108.
[Iron Maiden]


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109.
[Ponyo]


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110.
[Cold Case]


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111.
[The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock, Hetalia]


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112.
[The Mighty Boosh, Sherlock Holmes]


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113.
[Chris Colfer]


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114.
[Noel Fielding]


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115.
[L4D2]


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116.
[Planetside Caprica]


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117.
[Kohji Kumeta/Sayonara Zetsubou-sensei]


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118.
[Men Who Stare At Goats]


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119.
[Ke$ha]


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120.
[Alice in Wonderland]


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121.
[ms paint adventures]


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122.
(Fried Green Tomatoes)


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123.
(The Thick of it)


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124.
[Chuck]


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125.
[Sergeant Schultz, Hogan's Heroes]


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126.
[xxxHOLiC]


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127.
[Planetside Caprica]


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128.
[Space Precinct 2040 / Castle]


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129.
(Marble Hornets)


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130.
[Epik High]


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131.
[Damien Rice]


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132.
[Castle]


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133.
[Planetside Caprica]


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134.
[Merlin]


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135.
[Inuyasha]


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136.
[Ratchet and Clank]


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137.
[The Road To Wellville/Dana Carvey]


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138.
[Johnny Weir]


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139.
[90210]


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140.
[Sarah Jessica Parker]


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141.
[Yugioh GX/5D's]


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142.
[World of Warcraft/Warcraft]


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143.
[Nathan Kress]


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144.
[Paramore]


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145.
[Pink Floyd/The Fairly OddParents]


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146.
[NCIS]


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147.
[Ironman]


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148.
(Kathryn Bigelow)


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149.
[Noel Fielding]


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150.
[Maria Bamford]



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148

[identity profile] smokingguncafe.livejournal.com 2010-03-18 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhhhh excuse me?!

I'm sure lots of male directors don't have children and didn't pass on their *~*MAGICAL TALENT GENES*~* on to anyone, either. Lots of women choose not to have children and they still have fulfilling lives. Our existence as females isn't summed up by whether or not we have children, fuckwad.

Why can't she pass on her talent through mentoring people on her team or by just making movies?

Way to be INCREDIBLY sexist. I hope you're trolling, you ass.

RAGEQUIT. Ugh.

Re: 148

[identity profile] scornedsaint.livejournal.com 2010-03-18 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Meh, I'm usually the first to call sexism, especially when it comes to KB, but I think the OP meant well. I read the secret as it being a shame that she has no children because there won't be an awesome mini-Bigelow that could go on and do something amazing. I didn't see any "OMG HOW CAN SHE DENY HER BIOLOGICAL IMPERATIVE TO HAVE CHILDREN" subtext.

Re: 148

[identity profile] smokingguncafe.livejournal.com 2010-03-18 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I disagree.

It's a stupid fucking secret. The OP said they almost cried when they learned that someone they don't personally know and aren't personally affected by doesn't have children.

That's creepy and it's none of their business. You don't see anyone going A BLOO BLOO BLOO THIS MALE DIRECTOR DOESN'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN A BLOO BLOO BLOO.

I don't buy it.

Re: 148

(Anonymous) 2010-03-18 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I was irritated by this secret, too. Not having children is a perfectly valid choice, and children are not tiny versions of their parents. They generally grow up to be their own people with their own interests.

Re: 148

[identity profile] scornedsaint.livejournal.com 2010-03-18 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I agree, that the crying thing is creepy, but I still don't see the "WHY DOES SHE HAVE NO CHILDREN" subtext. For all we know, the OP was similarly upset upon finding out that Quentin Tarantino has no kids, but found that out years ago. idk, I think it's just a terribly worded secret. I can't get too worked up over it.

(I don't care terribly one way or another about KB's maternal status, but I do think it would be great if she helped out with some sort of organization for young filmmakers or something similar. She has such a great point of view and would set a good example for girls and boys who want to get into film)

Re: 148

[identity profile] soymade.livejournal.com 2010-03-19 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
I completely agree. Yes.

Re: 148

[identity profile] anivad.livejournal.com 2010-03-19 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
I get equally upset about male directors/actors/writers whom I like who have no children to pass on their awesome genes to, so I really doubt that this secret was due to Bigelow being female.

Re: 148

[identity profile] kribban.livejournal.com 2010-03-19 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Because men can always have childen. It's never too late for them.

Re: 148

[identity profile] smokingguncafe.livejournal.com 2010-03-19 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
She can't adopt? She can't teach others who show the promise of actually HAVING talent, instead of rolling the dice and assuming that her babies will be as genius as she is?

What's with people thinking that genetics alone transfer some magical talent and beauty to children? Pretty parents can have ugly-ass children. Genius parents can have morons for children.

And yes, men can produce genetic materials until late in life, but are they going to want to raise children when they're 60 or 70 years old? And even if those children did have the genes, who's to say they'd even want to follow in their parent's footsteps? Or be able to do anything talented without being instructed and taught well?

It's never too late for anyone. I don't know why everyone is so bound up in this idea that Kathryn Bigelow can only pass her talent on by giving birth to children who come directly from her own genes, which will UNDOUBTEDLY GUARANTEE that they have EVERY SINGLE ONE OF HER TALENTS.

Or gee, has it ever occurred to anyone that KB has chosen not to have children and enjoys a life free of those particular responsibilities? Assigning this "it's too late for her tragedy" to a childfree person makes a lot of unwarranted and rude assumptions about their life choices and circumstances.

Re: 148

[identity profile] kribban.livejournal.com 2010-03-19 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's tragic to not have children. I've chosen not to have them myself.

The fact though is that women have a biological deadline where we have to chose whether to have (bio-)kids or not. Men don't have this deadline, which is why you can look at George Clooney and still wonder whether he will have kids or not. My 48-year old cousin will be a father for the first time in a few weeks's time, for example.

Re: 148

[identity profile] rampant-chaos8.livejournal.com 2010-03-18 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Lots of women choose not to have children and they still have fulfilling lives. Our existence as females isn't summed up by whether or not we have children, fuckwad.

THIS. Thank you.

Re: 148

[identity profile] julianatheorize.livejournal.com 2010-03-18 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
everything about this secret makes me angry, in every way.
ext_10249: (harry potter)

Re: 148

[identity profile] nicole-anell.livejournal.com 2010-03-18 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
THANK YOU.

Also, being a good director is not genetic, for fuck's sake.

Re: 148

[identity profile] omorka.livejournal.com 2010-03-18 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was gonna say "Just ask Jason Reitman," but honestly, I though Juno was okay, so maybe that was mean of me. ;-)

Re: 148

[identity profile] lucywiggin.livejournal.com 2010-03-19 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, I'm upset Richard Dawkins only has one kid. Does that make me sexist?

Re: 148

[identity profile] smokingguncafe.livejournal.com 2010-03-19 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
It is if your motivation for being upset is centered in the fact that his major value as a human being is producing children. And that's often the case with female celebrities. Jennifer Aniston can't have babies OH NO.

The OP was upset and claimed he/she almost CRIED because a female film director doesn't have any children to inherit her talent and beauty.

As if talent and good looks are always passed from parent to child. The secret makes an inherently stupid assumption about genetics, and is sexist because it centers on the child-bearing abilities of someone the OP doesn't know and isn't connected to.

It's nobody's business whether a celebrity has children.

Re: 148

[identity profile] lucywiggin.livejournal.com 2010-03-19 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Good people (and their genes) are hard to find. I can understand why anon was upset when he/she found out a talented person won't pass those genes forward.

And yeah, good genes don't always equal good kids (what ever happened to Einstein's kids?) but on the other hand, both Bohrs and both Curies won Nobel prizes.

Re: 148

(Anonymous) 2010-03-20 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Talent and beauty are not always passed on and things are tricky on the beauty business because there's no universal gold standard for beauty.

But evolution, all 4,600 years of it, is nothing but passing on the best bits of yourself onto your children.

At this point the OP might have given up on the idea that nurture will do anything to improve mankind. But look around. We are the most cultured living beings on this planet and what do we do with it? Bicker on fandomsecrets, using our made in china computers - products of human rights and environmental abuse.

Maybe they think that only biological evolution can better us now.