[ SECRET POST #1216 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1216 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 15 pages, 351 secrets from Secret Submission Post #174.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - empty comments ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

That's only because you're an exploitive, privileged asshole, like every other fandom dweller that thinks it's cool to 'live vicariously' by reading stories and watching movies and playing games that trivialize human suffering into fun and games. If anyone is really interested in moving toward a peaceful world, they'd realize that you cannot attain peace unless you change people's nature. So long as humans find entertainment in horrible things like killing, destruction and rape, they will continue to commit horrible actions. It's part of our consciousness that those things are expected and acceptable, and those war movies and fighting games? They're a huge part of it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Fiction is among the most exploitive and disturbing inventions of humans, and that kind of "lol just fantasy" attitude about it is sickening.

[shajik.livejournal.com]

Killing a bot/other player in a game != killing irl. I enjoy having a quicker trigger finger than someone miles away, I enjoy getting having my slower stealth pay off in the dispatch of a few opposing players.

In no way does that mean I enjoy killing someone, or even anything, in real life. I feel like crying over crunched cockroaches sometimes. Do not assume all people can't separate games from real life.

[(Anonymous)]

blah blah I can separate fiction from reality


bull fucking shit. You know what? Fiction influences reality. Fiction, and the values it teaches, influence how we think and feel. From the time we are babies we are told stories to shape our understanding of the world. Do not be so simple minded and stupid as to assume that fictional scenarios and how they are portrayed have no impact on you.

[shajik.livejournal.com]

I never said they don't have an impact. But they don't always have a negative, aggression-causing impact. Have you played a war-storied game?

[dethtoll.livejournal.com]

Why the fuck are you even here? Get out.

[crystalzelda.livejournal.com]

There are a lot of things you are saying I agree with, but I gotta be honest bb, insulting people won't really help get your point across. I find myself nodding in agreement with what you're writing, but still, I think you owe it to your argument to present it in a way that won't antagonize people, so that they will think about what you're saying instead of focusing on the insults. But that's just me. Anyways, you make a good point... just maybe without the side of rage?

[(Anonymous)]

No, I don't make a good point, I'm a fucking troll

Jesus Christ, what is wrong with you

[crystalzelda.livejournal.com]

Which is what makes it sad. Because what you've said have empirical validity, and trolling the thread only reflects badly upon you, that you would muck up a legitimate conversation with wank. I very well know you are a troll. It's obvious within two posts. Nevertheless, the pervasion of violence in society has served to the desensitization of human suffering, which do not have the impacts you're claiming they have, but raise their own issues, issues that have a legitimate place in conversation. But there's no point trying to talk to a troll, who cannot find any other way to engage with others but to insult and get a rise out of them. At that point, I'd ask what's wrong with you, but I won't play that kind of game. I hope you find the validation you are looking for. :)

[(Anonymous)]

http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/478083.html?thread=284310659#t284310659

[crystalzelda.livejournal.com]

Your point? That you're trolling? Yes. I know. Next time, turn your sarcasm radar on. I think you might've left it at home today. :(

[(Anonymous)]

That's not my point, and lol, it's kind of cute that you're trying to pretend that you weren't responding seriously to me.

[crystalzelda.livejournal.com]

Oh, I was responding seriously to you. Sarcastically, but yes, seriously. I DO think you need to leave the side of rage at home. Not good for your cholesterol.

[(Anonymous)]

right, lol

like actually what the fuck are you even trying to prove. you got trolled and agreed with an incredibly stupid comment, admit it already

[crystalzelda.livejournal.com]

This is an internet forum. Nothing to prove. No internet trophy at the end of the day for either of us. And now, now. There is no need to swear. And I stand by that comment. I do think that society's attitude on some mediums of entertainment can border on the exploitive and may have a tendency to trivialize actual suffering in the world all for our viewing pleasure. And yes, I do think all that rageyness~~ CANNOT be good for your heart. You have to take care of yourself, bb!

[(Anonymous)]

That's only because you're an exploitive, privileged asshole, like every other fandom dweller that thinks it's cool to 'live vicariously' by reading stories and watching movies and playing games that trivialize human suffering into fun and games. If anyone is really interested in moving toward a peaceful world, they'd realize that you cannot attain peace unless you change people's nature. So long as humans find entertainment in horrible things like killing, destruction and rape, they will continue to commit horrible actions. It's part of our consciousness that those things are expected and acceptable, and those war movies and fighting games? They're a huge part of it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Fiction is among the most exploitive and disturbing inventions of humans, and that kind of "lol just fantasy" attitude about it is sickening.


There are a lot of things you are saying I agree with, but I gotta be honest bb, insulting people won't really help get your point across. I find myself nodding in agreement with what you're writing, but still, I think you owe it to your argument to present it in a way that won't antagonize people, so that they will think about what you're saying instead of focusing on the insults. But that's just me. Anyways, you make a good point... just maybe without the side of rage?

[crystalzelda.livejournal.com]

Nevertheless, the pervasion of violence in society has served to the desensitization of human suffering, ***which do not have the impacts you're claiming they have***, but raise their own issues, issues that have a legitimate place in conversation.

I can quote too! There are points in the paragraph that are legit, but most, as the part you've bolded out, and the whole "as long as humans are entertained by violence they will be violent", are trollspeak. And there are *A LOT* of things I agree with, not all. *sigh* Reading comprehension, my friend.

[(Anonymous)]

mmm nope sorry there was nothing in my original comment that was not ridiculous. At the very most, one sentence.

[crystalzelda.livejournal.com]

Okay, then. That's fair enough. I still think what you said, toned down x100,000 isn't all that ridiculous. Fiction does have a tendency to turn human suffering into entertainment. Guy got stabbed? CSI. Girl got raped? Law and Order: SVU. Is that wrong and awful and terrible? Nah, I watch those shows all the time. Is it a little bit disconcerting? I think so.

[dar-actually.livejournal.com]

I'd argue that the cowardice of only being able to express your opinions in anonymity is worse.
Pro-tip, if you want someone to listen to what you have to say, don't open with an insult.