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fandomsecrets2010-05-02 05:14 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2010-05-02 05:14 pm
[ SECRET POST #1216 ]
⌈ Secret Post #1216 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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(Anonymous) 2010-05-05 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)I JUDGE YOU BY YOUR USE OF APOSTROPHES.
It's a very simple convention if you spare five minutes to bother learning how to use it, and there is no excuse not to.
None.
Not even in texts, tweets, or chats -- all keyboards, all phones, all "mobile devices" have an apostrophe button or key or way to use the thing. I write correctly punctuated, capitalized, spelled texts and tweets because why should I expect people to bother reading it if I can't bother saying it?
You may shudder to think I feel a need to police informal writing, but I shudder to think that you're an educator at the college level who doesn't bother to provide such a fundamental of education as *effort matters*. I hope that your students go on to find instructors like my own humanities and social science professors who emphasize that the way you present your ideas is as important as what they are. That attention to detail has helped my career more than any other single experience in school, simply because being able to clearly articulate an idea, whether in 140 written characters or 50,000 words of technical reporting or an hour of speaking at a conference, is becoming as lost an art as letter-writing.
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I assure you, they did not. I've spent a lot of time with the personal papers of many learned men and women and there are plenty of errors. Handwritten notes often have errors. And honestly I feel that a text and a tweet are no less informal for their being put into typed text rather than handwritten. If I'm typing in chat, I'm typing as fast as I can think, and I don't always catch all of my errors.
Do you also go around correcting people's grammar errors when they are talking to you? Because I think that is rude and inappropriate.
Do I notice incorrect use of apostrophes, and correct them where appropriate? Of course. Do I make an effort to use them correctly? Of course. Do I always catch when my iphone, by default, has changed an "its" to an "it's" when I really meant "its"? Of course not. Do I think that these people in the Times article who search twitter and send angry tweets to people who have done something incorrectly are wasting their damn time? Absolutely.
A great deal of our informal speech has moved from the spoken word to the written word. I would hate to think that people who aren't quite as adept in the finer points of language, because of people like you, would have their right to participate in the larger conversation taken away from them. THAT is what I am talking about.
But you know, to be honest, I can't be bothered judging people for their apostrophes. I'd much rather judge them by what they are trying to say to me.
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(Anonymous) 2010-05-06 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)Now, while I'd love to get into some erudite mud-slinging about whose time in the stacks with old letters and documents is more significant and which of us has the bigger academic dick, I've got to get going. Work to do, under-classes to crush -- you know how it goes.
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And that wasn't about big academic dicks or whatever; it was actually more, "No, the culture isn't grinding to halt. It was ever thus." I have no ax to grind with academia in either direction, nor do I find it to actually be all that elitist. Strange that you put all this agenda on what I said, or accused me of being a lousy teacher, or whateverthehell you said in your first comment to me.
The thing is, it doesn't bother me that much; I merely notice it. More importantly, I don't judge the person who made the error. THAT actually, really bothers me a lot—the constant ridiculous judging of people.
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None.
Wow, there's an absolute statement just screaming to be refuted, so how about this one. My brother has a learning disability. He's not stupid, he's not uneducated. He, in fact, has a masters degree in philosophy. He also couldn't read until he was almost nine and to this day writing and reading are extremely challenging for him. He can't reliably use apostrophes or commas or distinguish homonyms. He's had all of these things explained to him, intelligent and caring people have sat down and tried to work with him so he could learn - it didn't work because print is not his friend.
By all means, judge complete strangers based on facial experiences; it shows your character, though, so don't be surprised when people judge you in return for your inability to approach the world with an open and accepting heart.