[ SECRET POST #1264 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1264 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 27 pages, 651 secrets from Secret Submission Post #181.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - repeat ], [ 1 - doing it wrong ], [ 1 - take it to comments ], [ 1 - ships it ], [ 1 2 3 - posted twice ], [ 1 - personal attack ], [ 1 - empty comment ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

176. http://i47.tinypic.com/bhd4xv.jpg

[shah-of-blah.livejournal.com]

You are not alone.

[(Anonymous)]

Another day has gone
I'm still all alone
How could this be
You're not here with me
You never said goodbye
Someone tell me why
Did you have to go
And leave my world so cold

Everyday I sit and ask myself
How did love slip away
Something whispers in my ear and says
That you are not alone
For I am here with you
Though you're far away
I am here to stay

But you are not alone
For I am here with you
Though we're far apart
You're always in my heart
But you are not alone

'Lone, 'lone
Why, 'lone

Just the other night
I thought I heard you cry
Asking me to come
And hold you in my arms
I can hear your prayers
Your burdens I will bear
But first I need your hand
Then forever can begin

Everyday I sit and ask myself
How did love slip away
Something whispers in my ear and says
That you are not alone
For I am here with you
Though you're far away
I am here to stay

For you are not alone
For I am here with you
Though we're far apart
You're always in my heart
For you are not alone

Whisper three words and I'll come runnin'
And girl you know that I'll be there
I'll be there

You are not alone
For I am here with you
Though you're far away
I am here to stay
For you are not alone
For I am here with you
Though we're far apart
You're always in my heart

For you are not alone
For I am here with you
Though you're far away
I am here to stay

For you are not alone
For I am here with you
Though we're far apart
You're always in my heart

For you are not alone...

[trialia]

So not alone that I wonder why sie even bothered to make it a secret, frankly.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Perhaps they were feeling left out of the current discussion round?

[(Anonymous)]

I like to think that Laura Roslin was a stronger person than to let her self-identity be destroyed by any other person involved in her life.

The choices she made were still hers. They always have been.

Doesn't matter if Bill is a douchebag or not.

[(Anonymous)]

The problem is Laura Roslin is a fictional construct created and written by men. For the first oh - 3.5 seasons, she was written to have agency. The narrative allowed us to see how Laura Roslin reacted and shaped events and how she, herself, reacted to things like her illness. It also gave her things we still consider problematic for women to have, even in US society -- things like near unlimited political power, significant sway over military matters, no husband and children and a sense that she had no regrets and didn't need them. Even when robbing her of her physical power, the show allowed her to maintain her mental and political power -- she ordered the assassination of an enemy and ordered the late-term abortion of a potential threat.

And then -- the males (and one female) constructing her narrative decided not only to rob her of her physical strength but to to take away her political power and her agency. We didn't see how events that would affect the power of the president affected her. She was effectively cut out from any strategy sessions. She effectively disowned all of her history -- a history that included being an ambitious woman having a cabinet-level job position and SAVING THE FREAKING HUMAN RACE more than once -- to say that she was only happy when she was Bill Adama. Her male writers took away everything that complicated her and reduced her to an old-fashioned female narrative: physically weak, politically impotent and completed by her man.

[(Anonymous)]

THIS.

And I will also add that for me it wasn't just that she was "just happy with Bill Adama," but she was happy with him when he was all OMG PITY ME *GLUG GLUG GLUG* MOAR BOOZE! BEING AN ADAMA IS SO HARD! And because of this, her entire character was faded into the background to the point her death became merely an afterthought in a half-assed shitty epilogue.

[childings.livejournal.com]

decided not only to rob her of her physical strength

Okay, I can understand your argument except for this. SHE HAD CANCER AND WAS DYING WHAT DID YOU EXPECT

[trialia]

Rolling my eyes so hard right now, because why did you even bother to make this a secret? It's not like a large chunk of Laura's fans don't agree with you or anything like that.

If it's because you're just being a hypocrite within fandom and pretending to think differently, well, FFS. Own your negative opinions as well as your positive ones, if you can do nothing else.

[(Anonymous)]

Rolling my eyes so hard right now, because why did you even bother responding to the this? It's not like a large chunk of people reading this can't choose to ignore it or anything like that.

If it's because you're a hypocrite within fandom and just love seeing your name on the bright shiny screen, well, FFS. Join a community where no one wants to express any of their opinions, if you can do nothing else.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh wow, with this reaction I have NO CLUE why OP would make this secret anonymous.

*rolls eyes*

[brittania.livejournal.com]

I can't believe I'm the only one who disagrees. I think their characters complimented each other's strengths beautifully.

[(Anonymous)]

Adama: Nice strength, Laura.

Roslin: Ditto, Admiral.

compliment =/= complement

And their substance issues didn't even complement each other. Everyone knows when you trippin' you don't need some drunk asshole killing your buzz.

[brittania.livejournal.com]

I see where you're coming from, and I agree based on the issues brought up with both their characters in season 4.5. However, if you look at the show as having ended after 'The Oath' (as I choose to), the support and stability they gave one another stands. It's only after the mutiny and Laura's random step down from the Presidency that the writing of their characters went to pot.

There may be merit in the "Adama is a douchebag" comment, but there's also merit in calling Laura a bitch from time to time. They both did ugly things. I think those are the qualities that make them interesting, to be honest.

[tawabids.livejournal.com]

And their substance issues didn't even complement each other. Everyone knows when you trippin' you don't need some drunk asshole killing your buzz.

LOL'd so hard. Can't breathe.

[childings.livejournal.com]

I can't fathom how anyone would blame him for drinking heavily considering the shit he'd been through. Both he and Roslin had a lot to deal with, especially after finding Earth just to see that it had been destroyed

[(Anonymous)]

A woman who separated a baby from her parents, a baby who SAVED HER FUCKING LIFE from the mother who SAVED HER FUCKING LIFE? Say what you want, some things you just don't do. Nothing she ever does will change the fact that she had to be a massive douchebag to let anyone think their baby is dead. As far as I'm concerned all she desirves is to rot in hell.
And I'm fuckin' sick of her being treated like a queen of strong, feminist female characters. It still boiled down to the fact that she - a woman - was a superstitious, religious nut-job that followed her hunches instead of reason and facts. Adama - a man - was the rational one. She just happened to be right because it's ~a show~ that's ~fictional~. Her methods of thinking and making decisions were still typicaly female: irrational.

[(Anonymous)]

LET ME RATIONALLY BRUSH MY TEETH AT YOU!!!! AND DRINK!!!!!

[rmg.livejournal.com]

What the hell?

Adama's entire character was based on emotional decision-making. Like, all of it! Name a decision Adama made and chances are it was based on emotions. Like even back in Season One he was doing shit like commandeering the entire fleet's resources to search for his surrogate daughter Starbuck and and keeping Tigh around as his XO just because they're BFF or whatever.

He always ran his ship like a family. That's like the whole premise of the show! I mean, when did he ever let cold reason win out over his emotions and the fact that like every character on the show is his surrogate son/daughter? Maybe when he jumped away from New Caprica instead of getting killed immediately, I guess.

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

Awww. Was your side of fandom feeling left out of the currently raging debates?

[runawaynun.livejournal.com]

Trufax, OP. Trufax.

[childings.livejournal.com]

Funny, I think Roslin can be an evil bitch (S3 anyone?) even though ultimately I like her. And I love the shit out of Adama and I can't understand how anyone could hate that man, WTF

[(Anonymous)]

Deciding to get wasted while the woman you "love" is dying? GTFO with that angst Papadama! You're starting to look like your son.

[quarantedeux.livejournal.com]

TBH, I love Roslin because she's a bitch (IDK, in a lot of ways I consider "bitch" to be a compliment, because that means you're a woman who isn't taking anyone's bullshit).

And yes, the second part of your comment is spot on. I admittedly don't understand why people hate Adama. I've heard the arguments. I guess one person's asshole is another person's hero. *kanyeshrug*