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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-06-26 03:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #1271 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1271 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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No mudkips, don't worry.

Secrets Left to Post: 25 pages, 608 secrets from Secret Submission Post #182.
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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
101. http://i46.tinypic.com/14aekk0.jpg

[identity profile] starshipblues.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel the same way, but I suppose its making the effort to improve thats makes the difference. I don't really think its okay to look at the wonky anatomy and coloring in your art and say "Oh well I tried so I don't care". But then again, its all for fun, so just go for it, OP. Just be confident that you can improve and remember its just fandom and not srs business.

[identity profile] pf-please.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Aww Op, I think you should go for it! I think artwork can always be improved. My art isn't perfect either but I have posted it anyway. I think what's more important is that you had an idea, drew you and shared it with your fandom to enjoy. It's a satisfying feeling!

[identity profile] nomorenoodles.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I bet you're better than you think you are. No art is ever perfect, no matter who made it and how good they are. All that matters is that you enjoy it, and hey, practice will help loads! :)

[identity profile] caelith.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Why is it okay for you to use someone else's art to demonstrate all these 'flaws'? Would you be okay with it if someone posted a similar secret and used your artwork?

Maybe that kinda thing is part of the reason people are scared of posting their stuff.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-26 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe that kinda thing is part of the reason people are scared of posting their stuff.

this, jfc

[identity profile] herlittlepony.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't see anything glaringly wrong with the example chosen; it looks great to me? Maybe I'm not too good at critiquing fanart. =/ That seems way harsh and cold though. I hope the artist isn't part of this comm.

[identity profile] caelith.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Me either. Don't know why it's being used as an example of bad art. I wouldn't mind being that talented.

[identity profile] lovegonnadrown.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think OP was saying "omg this is so terrible", seems like they were referring to the more "eh" fanart out there. The generic sparkly animu kind, I guess. Not awful, but not anything particularly amazing.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-26 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
So we should just ignore all flaws in everything to spare the creator's feelings? It's terrible only seeing nice comments on art/fic that is honestly not that great. The real way to go about it is to compliment what they're doing right, and try to help them fix what they're doing wrong. If the artist can't handle any criticism to their work, then they shouldn't be posting it.

Fucking fags being nice all over the place grumble grumble

[identity profile] caelith.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay Einstein, in the context of the secret, OP's use of someone else's art to demonstrate his/her point is hypocritical.

Fucking fags being nice all over the place

That's a dick thing to say.

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(Anonymous) 2010-06-27 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
No, you're reading the secret wrong. OP admires the people who are confident enough to post their art despite its flaws. You cannot say that the image used is a stunning example of perfect anatomical proportions. It's a good picture, but it's mediocre and needs improvement. But good for the artist anyway for putting him/herself out there.

[identity profile] caelith.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
You cannot say that the image used is a stunning example of perfect anatomical proportions.

No, you can't say that. The OP is wishing he/she had enough guts to post as the artist of this example did. She's scared of posting, as are most people when it comes to publicly outing their work. One of the main reasons people are scared is the possibility of ridicule, the OP states that with the way the secret is worded. Using someone's picture as an example of mediocre work is pretty hypocritical as the OP is doing to the artist something he/she is afraid of themselves.

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[identity profile] bloodrivendream.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish I could be one of those people too.

[identity profile] aeonamber.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Just go for it, OP. I'm sure there are people out there who will appreciate it, and your art could well be better than you think. Everyone's their own worst critic after all.

Keep practicing and enjoying what you do. :)

[identity profile] lilweirdomokyn.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I know the feeling. But I've started working to improve more and more, so that I can be good at original art and fan art. If you're not comfortable yet with showing your work off, that's okay. You can show it off when you're really and truly proud of it, and it won't matter as much to you what other people think, because it's your creation.

[identity profile] sliferskydragon.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
post, and don't worryboutit

if you're that self-concious just post it under a different toally separate username :3

[identity profile] chambergambit.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I think posting will do nothing but help you. If you post, people will be able to give you critique and you can get better.

Seriously, try it C:

(Anonymous) 2010-06-26 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't know if you know about this webstite, but http://www.posemaniacs.com/ is really good for learning anatomy. I especially love their 30 second drawing tool, it's helped me progress so much.

Don't worry OP, you don't have to post anything you're uncomfortable with. Just keep practicing, and don't worry about whether you think other people are "better than you". Everyone has to start somewhere. As long as you enjoy doing what you're doing, that's all that matters :)

[identity profile] powercorrupts.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel that way a lot. Then I make myself take a look at what other people are posting, and notice that sometimes even then, there are comments thanking them for sharing. I tell myself, if someone was glad to see this more inexperienced artist's work, wouldn't maybe someone be glad to see mine?

And at the very worst, it makes me not feel like I'm somehow pushing my shitty art on other people as much. If someone else pushed their art out there who was worse than me, then I'm not the biggest art burden around.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-27 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
I used to show everyone every picture I finished, but mostly it would just make me feel stupid if everyone said that it was great, and a week later I would look at it with fresh eyes and see all the mistakes and doubt myself and everyone else. Now that I've gotten more serious about my art, I'm not showing anyone anything and waiting for when I'm confident enough in my art to show it to other people. I've found that this is much easier on me, although it was hard to break self-criticism at first.

It's okay if you don't have that confidence yet. Eventually, you're going to draw something great, and when you look at it the next day or in a week, it'll still be great, and you can post that with pride and without fear. It's okay to wait for that to happen, and you'll feel better when it does than if you made yourself post it before you were ready. Before that happens, you can submit something for proper critique if you want real advice on things to fix and so on, but don't feel pressured to be perfect in your art OR your fearlessness. You'll get there.

[identity profile] ex-serah.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
You're not going to get better unless you show people your stuff. Not only because of the criticism you might get but it also drives you to get better.
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[identity profile] jyusan.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 10:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, sometimes I think that, too. A long-long time ago, when, obviously, my poor drawing skills were even poorer, when I worked hard on something, I liked it by the end and posted it. Looking back now, of course it's like, awful, but my views have changed since then. It's just that at that time, working to reach my greatest potential was less than now. Now I feel like it has to be super perfect or I don't like it. Which is, bad, because I like drawing because it's fun, not because I want to be the next Leonardo DaVinci.
Don't be afraid to post your art, people might be even able to give you constructive criticism. And even so, if you had fun drawing it, put your heart into it, that comes through, believe me.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-27 10:39 am (UTC)(link)
You are a GIGANTIC douche for using someone's picture like that. I can't imagine why you would think that was okay.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-27 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol, bad art is bad art.