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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-07-18 04:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #1293 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1293 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2010-07-18 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty with suicidal depression. Wanna trade?

(Anonymous) 2010-07-18 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm unattractive with the same problem. Having everyone tell me how pretty I am all the time and having a cute, loving boyfriend would definitely up my will to live. So yes let's trade.

(Anonymous) 2010-07-18 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
lol what dream world do you live in? just because someone is attractive doesn't mean people go 'omg you are soooooo pretty!!11!' all the time, and how would you get that cute, loving boyfriend when you can't even get out of bed because of your depression? and since you'd still be the same fucking person inside I hardly think your suicidal thoughts would lessen to any degree.

(Anonymous) 2010-07-18 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Why are you assuming that being pretty = being constantly told you're pretty and automatically getting a great boyfriend? It really does not happen that way.

(Anonymous) 2010-07-18 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it wouldn't. While I wouldn't describe myself as pretty, I tried to commit suicide when I was in a happy, loving relationship. Depression is a neurochemical illness, not a result of being ugly and unappreciated.

(Anonymous) 2010-07-18 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
so being objectified makes you happy.

God, now I just feel sad for you.

(Anonymous) 2010-07-19 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
because being invisible and ignored your whole life is so much better amirite

(Anonymous) 2010-07-19 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
Let me level with you. (New anon here.)

Looks don't make a difference if you have high self-esteem. There are beautiful women out there in shitty relationships because they don't value themselves and they're asshole-bait.

You can be not conventionally pretty, and overweight, and have a great life, excellent romantic relationships, etc.

Cultivate your personality. Be someone people want to be with. You don't have to be a beauty to look YOUR best. Value yourself and other people will too.

I'm plain, and I have NEVER been invisible. And I know that the friends and boyfriends and now husband I have don't just like me for my looks, either. I wouldn't trade that for being beautiful. Ever.

[identity profile] username371.livejournal.com 2010-07-19 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
WRONG. If you're a woman, your looks are your number one asset. Everything else is secondary.

Fat women can be happy - surprise. But that's because they're pretty fat women. They have beautiful faces, great hair, good sense of style, often big breasts etc.

And plain doesn't equal ugly either. Most girls who claim to be ugly are just plain compared to Hollywood starlets. Of course they don't have much issues with looks. Being actually, objectively ugly is a whole different thing.

(Anonymous) 2010-07-19 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
WRONG. If you're a woman, your looks are your number one asset. Everything else is secondary.

No. I would say my brain is my top asset. My personality is another. Looks fade, and women who rely on them for their success (unless they're actors or models) are going to be in for a rude awakening once they're not young, fresh-faced and a size four anymore.

Fat women can be happy - surprise. But that's because they're pretty fat women. They have beautiful faces, great hair, good sense of style, often big breasts etc.

You're equating happy with pretty. Most of these things, including a good sense of style and great hair, can be acquired. There are thin women who don't look good because they've got ratty hair, their eyebrows have never seen a tweezer and they wear sweatpants 24/7. Very few people look pretty without at least some effort on their part.

Most of the women I've known who have been vocally insecure about their looks, breast-size, men, etc. have been conventionally pretty and thin women. That does not guarantee "happiness".

And plain doesn't equal ugly either. Most girls who claim to be ugly are just plain compared to Hollywood starlets. Of course they don't have much issues with looks. Being actually, objectively ugly is a whole different thing.

Very few people are objectively UGLY, though. And all of the people I know who want partners and are open to being in a relationship do find people to date and/or marry.

I agree that many people who claim to be plain or ugly aren't either one and are sometimes fishing for compliments and reassurance. "Oh, Jenny, you're not ugly!"

But people are usually harder on themselves than other people are. I was very self-conscious about some aspects of my appearance too, but frankly, life is too short, and people are mostly focusing on their own flaws, not mine or yours.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2010-07-19 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
I've met pretty girls whose boyfriends and husbands beat the shit out of them. A fellow's not going to save you (whether you too are a girl, or a guy).

(Anonymous) 2010-07-19 09:17 am (UTC)(link)
Being pretty doesn't equal having a cute, loving boyfriend.

Pretty women can be in abusive relationships, or be single, or not even attracted to men.

(Anonymous) 2010-07-18 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Unattractive, overweight and having the same problem. So sure, I'll swap. You can take the staring from random strangers, the feeling of shame going make-up or clothes shopping or eating in public and the complete lack of anyone who looks remotely like you in magazines or on TV unless it's just a marker of society explicitely telling you to change.

The amount of BAW in this thread is kind of rage-enducing. As if the ~pretty~ people don't have any kind of built in advantage over everyone else because guess what? You goddamn well do.

(Anonymous) 2010-07-18 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Anon, come on. When I was a teenager I was morbidly obese with severe acne and a bad limp to boot. Please do not tell me I don't understand the shame. Am I lucky I was able to resolve a lot my problems, yes. Are there some advantages, there are. But it wasn't this great magical transformation I had always hoped it would be.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2010-07-19 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Not to start a fight with you, but I weigh over 300 pounds, have plenty of gray in my hair, am approaching 40, single, am not rich - and I'm going to tell you, the skinny, pretty girls are not responsible for your unhappiness. Hating them isn't going to fix your self-image problems. I watched my mother do the same thing for far too many years, and I kept wanting to just slap her and tell her to snap out of it and focus on doing something that made her feel good about who she was. (In a good way. I didn't want to HIT my mother.)