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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-08-24 04:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #1329 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1329 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Anonymous) 2010-08-24 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Why can't two male characters just be really good friends? Why does bromance have to equal romance? A guy and a girl being close friends doesn't automatically mean they're screwing each other when nobody's looking either.

Besides, if House ever made out with Wilson, he'd just fuck it up and then he'd really be screwed and alone. Even without romantic subtext, Wilson is the one person that's always able to keep House together, so why risk it? House couldn't maintain a relationship if his life depended on it, and it very well might.

(Anonymous) 2010-08-25 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
A guy and a girl being close friends doesn't automatically mean they're screwing each other when nobody's looking either.

Yes it does.

No seriously, are you new to fandom? It's not just slashers who think friendship=sex.

[identity profile] jlh.livejournal.com 2010-08-25 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, ready?

Western culture, especially the culture that creates filmed entertainment, highly prioritizes sexual romantic relationships. There are a bunch of reasons for this, like the drama of it, but a huge chunk of it was the elevation of the nuclear family in western culture in the years after WWII. There were MANY narratives in the fifties where the entire point is that the romantic couple forsake friends and family in order to be together. Romantic love is more important than anything else in many, many narratives.

So really, what shippers are actually trying to say is, "this is an important relationship." And the way to write a fic that says that, that even can say "this relationship is primary" is to make it romantic.

That said, it is so rare for any straight man and straight woman to be "just friends" on a long running television show that other than the show Friends I honestly can think of very few. Eventually they'll have a tense moment, a kiss, whatever. Part of that, of course, is that most of the function of most female characters is to be either a sexual object or a sort of emotional release, often both.

And sure, you could say that in our real lives our friends are as important as our romantic relationships, but then I would advise you to look at some advice columns/articles about relationships in men's and women's magazines, where they're constantly telling you not to trust your partner's opposite sex friends, and not to trust your same sex friends around your partner.

[identity profile] bloodrivendream.livejournal.com 2010-08-25 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
I love this comment.

[identity profile] relmneiko.livejournal.com 2010-08-25 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
I want to cut and paste this comment into every thread that ever brings up this argument ever.

(Anonymous) 2010-08-25 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Faulty assumption. Shipping House/Wilson doesn't mean you're shipping every other pair of male friends. Get over it.