[ SECRET POST #1351 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1351 ⌋

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Comments

[case]

Had to watch this in a film class once and jfc it was the most boring thing ever. Not surprising considering the awful story it was inspired by, though.

It wasn't the story itself so much as how it was written. But meh, I feel the same way about Tolkien. Amazing story, should've gotten someone else to write it.

[ishosophy.livejournal.com]

Tolkein wrote a very long series of books about walking. Sometimes they sang while they walked, and a lot of times they stopped walking to eat or sing about eating or sing about eating and walking while walking.

There was a ring, too, and people fought in the background. Sometimes.

[case]

There WAS a story there, which better writers got out of it in the movies. But the books... yeaaaaaaaah.

Tolkien was a linguistic genius, not so much a genius writer.

[immortality.livejournal.com]

Tolkien was a linguistic genius, not so much a genius writer.

You hit the nail on the head. My mom (who was in English major in college) said that Tolkien basically wrote the books to show how ~clever and ~smart he was by throwing in tons of literary and other references. The joy from reading this books comes more from getting the references rather than a deep and engaging storyline.

[adlanth.livejournal.com]

Hm. 'linguistic genius' may be true in that he loved inventing languages and that those languages sometimes came before the stories themselves.
But showing "how ~clever and ~smart he was"? Seriously, when it comes to throwing in obvious literary references, you can do a lot worse than that. Yes, he liked reusing Old English, Old Norse names or story, and it can be a pleasure to spot them, but I doubt it was done as smugly as you make it to be.

As for the absence of a "deep and engaging storyline"...Well, YMMV, of course, but I beg to differ.

[fierceawakening.livejournal.com]

Yeaaaaaaaaaah, this.

I can understand someone not liking it, though I really liked it. I can't understand the whole "he was trying to be clever" thing, though, at all.

Basically inventing my favorite genre ever = being a braggart? SRSLY INTERNET?

[immortality.livejournal.com]

I didn't intend to say that it was done smugly, just that those were his main motivations for writing the stories.

[(Anonymous)]

How do you know?

[goblinmarketmod.livejournal.com]

duh, Tolkien and twistomatic's mum were like BFF back in college. didn't you know? jeez.

[xanykaos.livejournal.com]

The joy from reading this books comes more from getting the references rather than a deep and engaging storyline.

Eh, YMMV. I love it for the characters: Sam and Pippin especially. And I love it because it really does evoke the feeling of being far from home. It's something that didn't click so much when I first read them, but when I was away in college, Pippin's distance from Merry was something I related to, and when I moved to a completely different country for half a year, it struck home even moreso.

I also liked the visual images I got reading it. But yeah, I have to admit, it's not really for everyone.

[anna-sg1.livejournal.com]

+1 on this comment

I love the books.

[fierceawakening.livejournal.com]

What I both loved and hated about it was that although the whole thing is the kind of epic, larger than life story about a world that isn't real that I love, it also... talks about the price of it all. The heroes win, the evil is vanquished... but everyone goes home with scars and sorrows, too.

Bad writers will often write about the heroes' triumph as all perfect and yay. But nowadays it's kind of a fad for everything to be Dark and for the heroes to Lose, just so they're not Winning.

Tolkien wrote about how even Winning has its price.

[trinity-destler.livejournal.com]

Or, you know, he genuinely loved language, literature, and mythology and enjoyed incorporating his interests into a story.

It's obviously a deep and engaging storyline for an awful lot of people, because it basically created a genre and writers have been ripping it off wholesale since it was published. My joy in the books comes from the feeling of being transported to another place with its own history and its own peoples, and yeah, from the epic storyline.

[immortality.livejournal.com]

I'm just saying what someone else said to me about them. I can make no comments on the books personally, because I haven't read them. But regardless, my mother is a huge Tolkien fan and owns all his books, so. *shrugs*

Like anything, YMMV. I'm not saying it can't be deep for some people (because, well, duh), just that it maybe not have been necessarily Tolkien's first and foremost point in writing the books.