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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-09-17 04:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #1353 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1353 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Anonymous) 2010-09-17 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
bawwwwwwww. want me to call you a wahhhhhhhhhhhhhmbulance?

that's not how it is at all, there are a select few number of people who make it like that but usually you're just interpreting somebody trying to make you address your privilege as someone trying to make you a victim. because it doesn't feel nice.

unfortunately, this is how it is like every day for us marginalized people. our lives are a collage of not-nice feelings. and if at one point in your fandom time a mean marginalized person who doesn't recognize your supreme and awesome power makes you feel, just for a split second, how we feel ALL THE FUCKING TIME, you have no right to complain. because you can leave. you can exit internet explorer (or chrome, or firefox, or whatever) and never have to feel like that again.

we can't. there is no exit button for our oppression. that's garbage. us not wanting you to tell us about the prejudices we feel is justified, because you can't and won't ever understand. and if you have privilege, you fucking benefit from it. you fucking benefit from our oppression. you're lucky we're nice to you. we shouldn't have to be. but if we're mean, you can still play us off as uppity oppressed people. if you're mean to us, it's our own fault. we should've known our place.

that's why this is emotional. this is my fucking life. i don't owe you rationality about the mistreatment i've suffered at the hands of the privileged - mistreatment you may very well be benefitting from as we speak. and you can play how we feel off as ~emotional responses~ because you will never have to feel like this.

you've said you're young. i'm sure you know what ageism feels like. and it's not nice. doesn't it piss you off when a middle aged person tries to explain what it's like to be young and how you just ~don't understand right now because you're young? how the crap you have to go through is for your own good? that sucks. i've been there. i'm still there. it's frustrating and it makes me angry and ~emotional~. but i have the comfort that one day i'll be middle aged and other middle aged people with my best interests in mind will rule the world. you do too, i'm sure. i can't feel like that about the other traits i have that marginalize me. they don't go away. i'm stuck as marginalized forever.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-17 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not what ageism is, anyway. Ageism is mistreatment of the old, not the young.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-17 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
no...

the group with power in society is middle aged. the young literally have NO POWER, and the elderly have very little. thus, ageism is the systematic oppression of the young and of the elderly.

when i say young, i mean like under 21 or even 18 young. sorry if that was misunderstood.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-17 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
The young don't have power because they literally don't have the ability to be rational or mature enough to handle the responsibility of looking after themselves. It's not a form of oppression.

[identity profile] bloodrivendream.livejournal.com 2010-09-18 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
You can use that same logic about a lot of elderly people who cannot look after themselves...

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2010-09-18 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
That's the same logic used to justify the fact that it's still legal to hit children, when assaulting an adult who actually has the power to defend themselves would NEVER fly.

Try again.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-18 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
ageism: exhibit a

that doesn't mean we don't deserve to be treated like human beings. people use this same argument for disabled persons. there's a difference between supplying help and or care when necessary and treating a group like they collectively are incapable of making any decisions for themselves.

and it's just a tiny bit obvious that it's oppression when the people in power are also the ones who ~know whats best. white people know what's best for poc, men know what's best for women, able people know what's best for non-abled, middle aged people know what's best for youth and elderly... hmm...

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2010-09-18 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know; this whole thing just makes me very sad for you. I'm sorry you have to put up with it all. I certainly wouldn't want to complain about MY problems after reading this.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-18 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
I have invisible disabilities and have been discriminated against by POC in positions of authority because they only see "white girl" and completely invalidate any actual issues because and I've heard one say this "white people don't have those problems, they're just spoiled by their over-protective middle class parents"

But I can't say this logged in (and only 'jokingly refer to it' irl) because people will be like OMG ReverseRacism isn't real!

To those people

(Anonymous) 2010-09-18 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
It's not reverse racism. It's just plain racism, but it's OK because it's against white people. White people are big kids they can handle it. They deserve it.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-18 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
The type of discrimination I mean is "unable to attain a driver's license"

How did I deserve that?

And furthermore, how does disciminating in such a way against teenage, disabled women "balance out the universe" for poc?

If you're being sarcastic...you fail at that too.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-18 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't that ablism?