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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-10-09 04:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #1375 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1375 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] aeonamber.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
This. Not that I don't value positive comments, but critique can be a great compliment as well.

(Anonymous) 2010-10-09 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a wonderful secret. You are amazing, OP! ♥
thene: Happy Ponyo looking up from the seabed (hurt me)

[personal profile] thene 2010-10-09 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
This, and it would be great if more people felt this way; it's often hard to guess how someone's going to take detailed crit. :/ Crit icons, etc.

(Anonymous) 2010-10-09 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish there were more people in the fandom like you, anon.

(Anonymous) 2010-10-09 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
This, so much.

I tend to only comment on/review fic when I can give some degree of concrit, and I don't know how many times people have responded negatively and been outraged that I would even dare question their writing. It's shocking how many people don't realize that concrit is an honest attempt to help, not belittle. If they don't want it or don't want to listen to the suggestions, that's fine—but there's no reason for them to get upset when they don't make it clear that they don't want any concrit to begin with. /vaguely cathartic rant

(Anonymous) 2010-10-09 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
OH GOD THIS.

I wish people could understand something about the way I criticise - I don't comment on bad fic. If I write something critical, it's because I love the bulk of what's been done but something has got to me where I think there's room for improvement. Not because I want to nitpick or bitch about how shit the fic is.

(If the fic is genuinely bad, I roll my eyes and move on. There's a lot of shite out there - Sturgeon's Law affects fic like no other field - and only so many hours in the day to comment.)

There are times when I think it's harder to be a reviewer of fic than it is to be a writer. Writers are working in an established field and playing to people's expectations of characterisation, and if they don't match up then reviewers will criticise that. But... writers borrow from their own lives and their own experiences to provide colour to their stories - "write what you know" in action. So criticising something in a fic is often interpreted as an implicit criticism of the writer's life. Criticising fictional characters in a fictional world? Not a problem. Criticising a life? People are going to get stroppy and start taking the criticism a bit too personally. And it's nigh impossible for reviewers to differentiate the two without advance warning.

[identity profile] sir-stache.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
this this this

[identity profile] plushulala.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed 100%

[identity profile] quartzteeth.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! Yes! I like this secret!

[identity profile] mirai-gohan.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
You are DEFINITELY doing it right. I kind of want to hug you for this secret, anon. It's very refreshing to see someone welcoming concrit. <3

[identity profile] razpberry.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
that's so magical and lovely ;__;

I've never gotten crit on fic really (well not really) but whenever I get any sort of comment that finds something negative about my writing, I don't get mad or defensive but I curl into a ball of failure or something LOL so basically you are my...receiving-critique-spiration (I can't believe I just stuck "spiration" on something). I wish I could be as joyful about it as you!

[identity profile] innatizzy.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Thumbs up, Anon. I only wish everyone thought that way.

[identity profile] mistress-siana.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
This made me smile. You're awesome, anon. :D

[identity profile] hyper-piggie.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
It's stuff like this that makes me wish I were better at giving criticism.

I'm usually stuck in this place where the people who ask for it are so much better than me, and I really can't find anything wrong with their stuff. So I don't know what to say.

Or inversely, the people who I feel like I can help... I don't know if they want it. :(

[identity profile] deciphre.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember when I was still active on dA. I could get several comments in a couple days, and if one of them was criticism, I would have this little party in my mind.~
Because whenever someone just says "nice", it really means nothing.

OP

(Anonymous) 2010-10-09 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Awww, thanks guys. I was kind of having a bad day but seeing all of these positive comments made me happy. Thanks :)

/gushy mood

[identity profile] mythc-writer.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish I felt more like this anon.

[identity profile] hai-kara.livejournal.com 2010-10-10 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
I can't say 'this' enough! Positive comments are nice and all, but add that word called 'because' and it's much better! I want to know what you like about my work, or what you don't. Help me improve people! 'Nice', 'funny' or 'fine' just doesn't feel like it's enough.

[identity profile] 1strangepirate.livejournal.com 2010-10-10 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Why is this a secret, haha?

Can't honestly say that I prefer crit to "positive" comments, but more that if anyone really THINKS about what I've written, and is curious about it or wants to know more or it had a big impact on them, or if they're moved enough for a (good or bad) insightful comment, holy shit that blows me away haha :) much more than "write more!" or "this is awful" etc

though I appreciate any attention, tbh %)

[identity profile] crimsontriforce.livejournal.com 2010-10-10 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
You are my favourite person of the week, anon :D

[identity profile] crimsontriforce.livejournal.com 2010-10-10 12:16 pm (UTC)(link)
(...which is a bland positive comment, I suppose... try to make a more controversial secret next time? XDD)