[ SECRET POST #136 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #136 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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No idea whose day it is, but it wasn't up, so...

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Comments

[luzerna.livejournal.com]

4. I love Kurot.

8. Adding a new background and adding a million effects to a piece is really the same thing. Why don't you ask them to provide links? (I'd really like to know where those icons came from too; the pictures in them are really nice and I'd like to see the whole thing instead of a 100x100 filtered crop.)

... Am I the only person here who feels totally awesome when I find art stolen from me? I'd love to see my fanart being cropped for icons and distributed even if it's without my permission. x(

[suntea.livejournal.com]

iawtc

[militarypenguin.livejournal.com]

8. Signed. It would be awesome to have your art iconed, credit be damned. As long as the person isn't claiming the art to be theirs, I don't see what the big deal is. I've never seen a case where the other people assumed that the person who made the icon also made the art in it, either.

[luzerna.livejournal.com]

Exactly. x(

I never, ever see iconmakers make icons of their own stuff unless it's for personal use only. That'd look too egotistical, and that's not good for your reputation.

Going on that I don't know why anyone would assume that the fanart in the icon was drawn by the iconmaker, so I don't really see a problem in using it. I can find the artist and the full picture easily if there's credit given, so that's nice. But if it's not there I don't see why anyone should be blowing a gasket over it, especially if they don't have relations with any of the people involved. That's just silly. =|

[fairness.livejournal.com]

AGREEING WITH YOU COMPLETELY.

I'm not an artist, but I write fics and back in the days when I wrote for bigger fandoms, my stuff would pop up occasionally in fan shrines and small fanfic archives without my permission/sometimes without credit. I didn't care, I was just flattered and thought it was awesome that someone would want to use it.

I don't get the big deal.

[ex-parle.livejournal.com]

8 - it's called FAN-art for a reason, it's just a shame some people are too stupid to realize what that means. Woe. But AGREEING WITH YOU, YES. ♥

[(Anonymous)]

Am I the only person here who feels totally awesome when I find art stolen from me? I'd love to see my fanart being cropped for icons

What you feel is okay to do with your fanart is your own business, but 99% of the time the art is being stolen from Japanese artists, almost all of whom do not want their work redistributed without their say-so. The Japanese hate English-speaking fandom because of this -- they think we're only out to steal their fanart.

[luzerna.livejournal.com]

Then they shouldn't be posting it on the net, should they? Once your drawings are out there, they're free game for everybody. If you've been stolen from countless times you'd think you'd learn not to post where your groupies can get at it. Or, alternatively, learn not to care about said groupies because they aren't harassing you; they're using your drawings for roleplay visuals and journal icons which is pretty harmless if you ask me. =| If I had any interest in making icons I probably wouldn't use art unless the artist told me it was okay, since that's just common courtesy, but taking hissy fits over uncredited icons strikes me as profoundly stupid.

Does it really matter what the Japanese think of the English-speaking fans anyway?

(I wouldn't say that 99% of it is ripped from Japanese sites either. I see tons from DA and Livejournal; I think I've come across this icon here while browsing Deviantart one day, actually. And I'm still using it because it's pretty. Oh noes, I'm a bad person, aren't I? And so is vyctori for making it, yes?)

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, that icon is made from official artwork.