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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-12-30 04:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #1457 ]


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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
02. http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/7969/rinlenhatecopy.png

[identity profile] mature.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
If you want to be technical, it'd really be selfcest/elaborate masturbation since a single VA (Asami Shimoda) provided the voice samples for both Len and Rin.

But aside from that, I don't get the fandom as a whole let alone the shipping. They're all just software anyway.
ext_1329685: Image of Donald Glover grinning and wearing glasses. (vocaloid - googlefu)

[identity profile] cherrycoloured.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
But aside from that, I don't get the fandom as a whole let alone the shipping.

To be honest, I only ship in Vocaloid for the porn, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's most of the shipping fandom. Others may ship for a certain video but not in another, since each video is a different canon. I don't do that, but I've seen a few of those type of fics around. (Also, sorry for the angry icon, it's the only Vocaloid one I have ^^;)

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Recs! :D

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Re: Recs! :D

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(Anonymous) 2010-12-30 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
THANK YOU.
Well, to be technical it's uneraged incest. Either way it's squick worthy and yeah, there's no canon evidence of it whatsoever.

[identity profile] lumati.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That would be because there's no canon, anon. If you want to argue about songs being canon with me, we can totally go that route. I'm sure I can find some shippy Kagamine twin songs out there that do make it canon. :P

(Anonymous) 2010-12-30 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
As they were under development, Crypton had the concept of making a pair of male and female voicebanks. The first idea of the concept was twin voices of a girl and her mirror image of opposite sex, just like twins. Also CFM had an intention to distribute them as twins, but this was not adopted either.[20] After seeing many works that depict their relationships differently, Crypton announced on a magazine interview that those would meet their ideal. Crypton did not decide to announce they are sibilings nor lovers, as they did not want to tie down each user's free creative activities. (http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Rin/Len_Kagamine)

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[identity profile] sairei.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
/kanye shrug

Twincest, mirror images, whatever. I dig it.

[identity profile] sairei.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
The pairing, I mean, not porn of them. Eek.

[identity profile] yuumeko.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
+1 icon love

(Anonymous) 2010-12-30 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually... they aren't really twins, either.

They're just a design for two voices.

They can be seen as lovers, as siblings, friends, whatever, just like any Vocaloid.

They're just empty slates.

[identity profile] yuumeko.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It's funny how people don't get Vocaloid shipping. Are you guys lost without some canon back story? They're voices with a character design. People put a story and personality to them. Not that hard.

[identity profile] sairei.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

[identity profile] mature.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
My question is doesn't a lack of canon inspire lots of BAWWWW if Person A interprets a Vocaloid's character differently from Person B? I swear I'm not trying to be trolly, I've just run into too much stupidity from people in the past working WITH a canon back story.

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(Anonymous) 2011-01-01 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
I ship personalities instead of hotness. So if I have to create the personalities entirely myself, then I might as well ship my original characters instead of Miku and Kaito. I can understand shipping them in the context of a song, where you've been given a canon, but when you ship it in general, you're just shipping OCs. And while I'm sure lots of people ship their OCs, when I'm shipping, I prefer to go with the original characters. Does that make sense?

[identity profile] x0whitelily0x.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's weird. But it's is also the only Vocaloid pairing I ship, even though incest is a huge squick of mine. Since the songs are really their canons, and half portray them as lovers instead of twins, I can't really see it as a twincest couple. *shrugs*

[identity profile] chibisah.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKv7cw_Z1P4

This is why I ship it.

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[identity profile] pimmy.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
incest/twincest is a HUGE squick of mine, but I love Rin and Len, so browsing for songs is really troublesome because of incest everywhere in the PVs ;_;
(tell me what you want, I see them as siblings so it'll bug me no matter what)

[identity profile] homestar.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I was under the impression that, officially, Rin and Len were the same character, but 'mirrored' to be both masculine and feminine-- not twins.

Also: twincest isn't exactly the most uncommon of kinks.

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[identity profile] antler-action.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Short answer? Yes. Fandom does love incest that much. Seriously, underaged, visually pleasing opposite-sex twins with no established personalities? I'd be surprised if it weren't a juggernaut ship.

Personally I think it's cute, but then I prefer Luka/Len, which comes with its own set of problems.

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(Anonymous) 2010-12-30 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
yep, I don't really get any vocaloid ships.

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Idk about anyone else but I started shipping them because of these MADs. /shrug

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[identity profile] fearless-rabbit.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't really get Vocaloid, but two people who look like each other making out is hot. Just saying.

Jesus, I'm a terrible person XD

[identity profile] cykstar.livejournal.com 2010-12-30 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't really get the whole fandom in general because these characters are such blank slates. All for the pretty, I guess?

I remember watching this video in an anime club meeting where a bunch of people on a street were interviewed about Vocaloids. One European lady said it's very interesting, but Miku's voice was unnaturally high. Cue, "WHAT NO, IDIOT" from a few people in the meeting.

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(Anonymous) 2010-12-31 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
OT: Does anyone have the original of this picture? I'd love to have it

OP here

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(Anonymous) 2010-12-31 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
None of the Vocaloids have any canon personalities or relationships, so shipping is pretty much based on just...how good they look and/or sound together. ;; I think that's why people do it, not because of incest. There have been a lot of a arguments over whether or not they're siblings.