[ SECRET POST #1522 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1522 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

FFVIII is one of those games you have to play/finish more than a single time, to fully understand the story. But most people didn't immediately do that, and didn't understand the story because of it.

For example: I see there are people in this board who still don't understand the reason for all that crazyness with Squall at the end. However if you had played the game again, you would probably remember that, to survive Time-Compression, the person had to think in his/her connections and love for his/her friends to not be "absorbed into time"(like the characters are when they lose to Ultimecia and fall unconscious).
Therefore, Squall being the 'lone-wolf' that he is, had some problems to leave Time-Compression after Ultimecia's defeat(we see him alone in a desert, and alone in a small floating island in the middle of nowhere). But Rinoa rescues him from his solitude(and from the Compression).

Ultimecia is another great example!
The Rinoa=Ultimecia theory was created because most people at the time thought that Ultimecia came out of nowhere and had no reason or development at all as a character, believing then, that the R=U theory would resolve the problem, giving a meaning for her presence in the story(turning an uninteresting character in a more interesting one).
BUT if they had paid attention, they would see that Ultimecia didn't NEED a fabricated/theorised reason to be in the game, because she already has one:
Ultimecia was persecuted for being who and what she was, and was afraid of the "Legendary SeeD" destined to KILL her. So she decided to destroy the SeeD and gain control over her own destiny(by controling time). It's all explained in the game(Ultimecia/Edea's speech in Galbadia, and the first encounter with Ultimecia/Edea in Galbadia Garden)!
BUT the problem is... This information came from Edea's(Ultimecia at the time) mouth, and therefore, was ignored by the players. "Why" you ask? Because MANY of them didn't understand it was Ultimecia talking, and not Edea! For YEARS, players thought Edea was like Golbez, a character who turned evil but was still in control of her actions, when in truth, it was Ultimecia all along using Edea's body as an avatar.
And that's what made the fanbase think that Ultimecia came ou of nowhere and had no reason to do what she did. Because they ignored Ultimecia was Edea, and therefore, ignored the fact it was ULTIMECIA speaking in those scenes(speaking/hinting about her past, no less).

In resume: The R=U theory was created by stupid people who didn't pay attention to the story, and exists to give an explanation and a meaning to a character who already have a canonical explanation and meaning to be there.

[dentedsky.livejournal.com]

I think you're underestimating the fanbase. I myself played the game through three times and loved the story. I knew in the first playthrough that Ultimecia was controlling Edea during those scenes - it's pretty obvious.

Thing is you say that Ultimecia was persecuted for being what she was - but don't forget, so was Rinoa. They even went so far as to lock her up. Furthermore, Rinoa confesses to Squall that she is afraid of turning evil and worries what will happen to her if she does. This kind of fear can easily turn into anger, especially if Squall is no longer around to protect her, in the future.

You're allowed to interpret the many parts of the game and symbolism presented however you like but don't assume that 'stupid people created the theory' when it's obvious people have thought long and hard about it. Personally I think the fact there's even a debate about this in the first place pretty much proves that there's at least some truth to it.