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[ SECRET POST #1536 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1536 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Man vs Food]

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36. http://i56.tinypic.com/ei4gwk.jpg

Fear is an artist's worst enemy.

If you're not afraid of people tearing you down, it's of not being good enough (nevermind that "good enough" begs the question "for what?"), and if it's not that it's exposing yourself in a very public way to scrutiny. A lot of artists grapple with fear on a day to day basis. I'm not gonna say 'get over it', because that unrealistic (not to mention callous), but I do think you should accept those fears ... and plow right ahead. You can't let them control your work, or you'll never learn, improve, or move forward.

Idno, I always figured if that happened, you can just listen to what people are complaining about being wrong, learn from it, and then if they continue to complain they'll just look immature.

Also from personal experience I've learned that you get the best critique this way, or by pissing people off. It's kind of funny. People who like you are likely to hold back their full analysis of your problems and you get into a comfort zone.

Edited 2011-03-18 21:07 (UTC)

Anon.

Draw. ♥
Draw and find your source of strength that will help you shrug off any haters. Good luck.

There's always going to be someone who will dislike what you do, no matter how good you are. If you let that fear get to you and try not to improve, then you will never be as good of an artist as you want yourself to be.

The odds of you getting popular from posting to devart are very, very low.

Try making a tumblr and posting your art there. That's what I did, and with the tag system and all, my stuff seems to get a decent amount of views. Then again, I just doodle crap for /co/, so I don't have any hopes of becoming popular, haha. I pretty much just wanted to avoid the cesspool that is dA.

You're only in danger of getting -that- popular from a few routes, and most of those involve fanart, fetish stuff, and creating a derivative series.

So, why worry? There's no such thing as EVERYONE loving your work. I can recognize art as good but still know it's not quite my thing. I understand a lot of people will say 'THIS SUCKS' when it's really 'this isn't quite my cup of tea', but that's the internet for you.

Dude. I'm an ok artist. Still finding my style and all that jazz. And I'm....I guess a TINY bit popular? Depending on the fandom really. But I HAVE gotten the occasional troll. Though it's usually for certain pairs I draw (EW SLASH. EW A STAR WARS SHIP THAT I SEE AS PEDOPHILIC (i age them up) AND ~NOT. CANON~!!! as though THAT'S that most HORRIFYING thing about the ship. *rolls eyes*).

I usually just laugh at them and go on my way.

Now, if it were genuine criticism, I'd take it to heart and try harder. Though if it were a criticism in the form of a douchey comment, I'd laugh and STILL try harder, just to fucking spite them.

You have to remind yourself that it is impossible to please all people at the same time. Popular or not, there will always be people who like and who dislike your work. But it doesn't have to be a bad thing - if people disagree about your work, then you have actually reached them and moved them in a particular way. Just try to enjoy the process of creating your art, and don't worry about other people's reactions too much, though it may be hard. But it is something most artists struggle with.

Dear fellow drawanon,

Please take two cans of Harden The Fuck Up and put on your Big Person Underwear three times daily after food, and before interacting on the interwebs.

As much as I would like to sympathize with you, it's not happening. I'm almost convinced this is a troll!secret instead of a fishing-for-compliments-please-pat-my-back-and-tell-me-i-rock secret. The way you've put forward your case for not wanting to draw reeks of dramawhore. I can tell you from experience that trolls and bashers don't come in without reason. Even the most banal, trivial, and petty thing is enough to set them off like a block of C4, and if you've given them fuel - which sounds very likely, given your reasoning, and seriously, if one little comment is enough to make you sulk, I got nothing for ya - you've given them exactly what they wanted. Get over yourself. If you're good, if all the joints are in the right place, the proportions are working, and your work isn't a POS, you're damned well good enough to stand firm and laugh at your 'trolls and bashers.' Did you do a background check on them? Did you assess their work for yourself? Did you ever manage to draw a conclusion as to whether they had something to say, or were just full of shit? Are you drawing for yourself, to improve yourself, or are you doing it to win the DA/Internet popularity contest? What logical reason do you have to fear criticism on your work?

All cynicism aside, we've all as artists worked our little artisty butts off to get to our current skill levels, wherever they may be. Grow a pair, and be proud of what you've achieved. Don't be afraid to take another look at whatever shit comment comes your way and see if there isn't a legitimate point hiding in there somewhere. Now GTFO and go back to drawing. And be awesome enough to laugh at your haters.

No matter what, you're always going to have critics with art-- especially in an art community like DA. Don't give up, dude. Plus, you could always treat it like a learning experience. See what people don't like and figure out how to do it right? On the brighter side, at least you'll still have people who appreciate your works-- and that is usually one of the more rewarding aspects of taking risks with your works.

You make it sound like what you learned to draw is going to go away if you get bad comments. The only thing that will stop you from improving is not drawing and not listening to critiques, which is the path you're on now. Not every critique is right. And you'll probably be able to identify trolls.

But if the prospect of posting online causes you that much grief, then don't do it. Just draw for yourself.

OP, haters happen. If you let that stop you from drawing, I daresay you might not love it that much. If that stops you from posting to dA? That's totally fine. Shy people happen, too. But if you're only drawing SO you can post to dA, and you're too afraid to post to dA, you might want to re-evaluate your priorities. I'm not trying to be insensitive - I'm sorry if it comes off that way. What I'm saying is that you can only control for certain factors in how your art is received, and all of those factors are you, you, you, and you. And you must make a conscious effort to control for that. Don't worry about what trolls do, only worry about how you react. Don't worry about dA, worry about developing your skill. Worry about you.

I think wanting to keep it from the internet if you're that affected by other people is a good idea. Might as well just share it with some friends and if you want to improve you can do that outside the internet with people who will actually give you constructive criticism.

If you don't get crit, how are you going to improve?

From the OP:

I'm all for constructive criticism. I've been in art classes in high school and in college and am very used to cc and love getting them. That's not what the secret refers to. This fear is towards those who troll people for kicks and have no real reason for tearing someone down. They're not doing it as some way to give advise or as some mythical form of tough love to promote improvement, but just to be bullies. And they usually go for someone who is more popular just so they can get off on the reactions. More people to piss off = more reactions.

Then I must lol because all you have to do is block them and report them.

+1

Block and report. Easy peasy lemon squeezy!

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