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fandomsecrets2011-03-26 04:07 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2011-03-26 04:07 pm
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⌈ Secret Post #1544 ⌋
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This took so long... (part 1)
a) running into christians (mostly online) who terrified regarding views on equality or (at best) really annoyed me- evolution etc. (some of the things people say online after all make your hair curl and are not necessarily always the best examples of humanity- plus I got really sick of having to define what a scientific theory really was.)
b) leaving that same religion which had caused me internal strife -and even the nicest of christians who meant well and were trying to convert me just not -getting- it. Plus sometimes talking about their religion sometimes online just made me cringe and was almost a trigger for me. I still cringe a little true but I've less of a hair trigger temper about it. Even when it's not good for you, leaving a religion is hard and even the most well meaning thing can just set a person off. This could also be true for someone who has had personal bad experiences with it from members or from what they hear happening in the wider world regarding it.
Overall my status right now is I kind of understand why people try to convert people, they think they're doing the right thing and all and that the only thing which should never ever be tolerated is the encroachment of social advancement and rights on the basis of such things.
I can understand the conversion thing when I really think about it, after all as a christian myself once a major reason for my own misery WAS the concept of the afterlife and the idea of people going to hell which kind of drove me nuts. And even without that, for some, religion is a comfort and I can see why someone who is happy in their religion thinking it might be for someone who is unhappy or unsatisfied or whatever. Though the thing is it isn't for everyone and it certainly isn't for me. I think a lot of people have that fear of someone trying to convert them and I certainly have- even some being a bit sneaky about it you know? It's a sad thing almost. Christianity calls its members to convert and gives ample motivation to do so but.. it scares people. It makes people second guess christians and wonder if they're looking them up and down as someone to add to the ranks and not care for them as a person but a mere statistic. When in some cases that's actually what the christian who evangilises is sometimes trying to do and they do perhaps care for that person. (Granted the less gracious- "add ranks to make my crown splendous my pretties heheheheh"- version certainly exists)
Well meaning evangilism is understandable on a certain level but still annoying at best and sort of a trigger also for others. I kind of try to brush off conversion attempts now adays.
I'm assuming you're a good person OP, which is in the end what matters. (As in not the ones who slam equal rights etc.)
While it may be hard OP it's just the thing that people have had bad experiences surrounding it eiether on-line or IRL and your religion is generally the one in charge of the most powerful country in the world. In a country whish is supposed to instigate seperation of church and state. The stories we hear over here across the pond are utterly terrifying too. Some of the (rarer) things which happen here can also be scary.
It's okay in general I think to let some of your religion out and maybe discuss it with some people. But you have to be prepared for debate (which will in some instances challenge you and cause you to doubt whether you like it or not) and you probably have to be prepared for some opposition even if you're not someone who answers to the 'nutso' crowd. There's no promises that type of thing won't happen because the internet is a free space. While my own experiences (internally anyway) have been less than nice when I believed I can sort of understand both viewpoints as I've believed and now no longer do so. Belief is remarkably powerful for a person and society even though I don't think it can move mountains. But hell with enough followers and equipment you could move it yourself.
Re: This took so long... (part 2)
Unfortunatly back lash will happen no matter what OP if you do show your beliefs and opinions. This is true of almost -any- opinion even. Not 'may' happen, will. Eventually. The efforts will depend on you to set yourself apart from more unsavoury people who follow christianity. It may not be fair but when you claim to be a christian it's also almost like claiming to be of a political party for some- but yours is wider ranging in terms of beliefs and actions and is even more unco-ordinated.
While I'm pretty sure there will be people who may attack you online it can help in a way to understand why too OP, wanking is never pretty but people are not always wankers for no reason and while what I did at points has been unfair to people who otherwise meant well and it's really not an excuse no matter how upset I was- there can be more to people than we know, including aggressive people or people who suddenly seem to be aggressive at the word religion. We're not at our best on-line all the time and for many the net can be the only place they can vent without fear of reprisal. It was for me for a while.
I'm sorry though if as otherwise being a good person your feelings are hurt though or scared. Just be prepared. In some debates some excellent points can be made and you can make new discoveries for both parties involved- like not all atheists being amoral hooligans who worship Darwin or all christians being complete mooks who get off on the idea of people burning in hell.
Being taken out of our comfort zone and being challenged isn't necessarily a bad thing. I mean obviously it doesn't always feel that -nice- at first but sometimes it's for the best.
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So uh... TL;DR good luck OP I guess. Things will be different but overall while there will be a transition period whatever happens might even be a good thing... eventually.
Re: This took so long... (part 2)
YES.
YES.