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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-23 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #1572 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1572 ⌋


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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
NS, NF, etc

N!F2

(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
TROLL IN THE DUNGEON

Re: N!F2

[identity profile] oberongeiger.livejournal.com 2011-04-24 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Doesn't strike me as one. N!F1 kinda does though...

Re: N!F2

(Anonymous) 2011-04-24 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
The tone of N!F2, particularly the B!S, made it seem like this person was deliberately trying to garner a reaction. And unless they're new to the community, they should know that a secret like that will always garner massive amounts of backlash.

And as the OP of N!F1, I can safely say that I really do have an alt that I use to state what I'm really thinking. It's not helping my anxiety problems yet, but maybe it will someday. I just wish I could think of an easier way to do it than total immersion.

NF1

[identity profile] unicornherds.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
That's why I have this account. Not so much "outlandish" but to just comment or post and try and work through my anxiety disorder and oversensitivity. Good luck, OP.

N!F2

[identity profile] i-am-a-rose-4.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Glad that you don't have triggers, but don't look down on the people who do. You think it makes it any easier to have someone saying that a person is strange, overemotional, or too sensitive when something affects them and shakes them to the core? No. You don't experience them, great. But that just means you have never FELT what it is like to be triggered - it's not pleasant, and it's not conscious, either. It's a reaction that just happens.

For me, sometimes, a certain thing will trigger me, and sometimes it won't. It depends on the context of the thing. That doesn't mean 'nothing has happened to me' or that 'I need to be more tolerant' of everything. The fact that you suggest that is a little short-sighted.

NF2

[identity profile] leafing.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I... Half-agree? Sometimes it can be a bit silly. Like if someone's talking about what they're going to cook for dinner tonight and put a trigger warning on it (for those with eating disorders) because it mentions food. Or they post a secret and put a trigger warning on it because there's an ice cream cone in the background.

The only other one that really bothers me that I can think of off the top of my head is warnings for "mental illness." It seems rude to those who have them, like saying "your existence gives me panic attacks."

Re: NF2

(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I see warnings for mental illness as being warnings put up for the benefit of those who have mental illnesses, not for other people. Some of us with mental illness, or with friends/family who have mental illnesses, don't always react well to coming upon a serious mention of mental illness where we wouldn't expect it, or upon reminders of what kind of havoc mental illness has wreaked in our life (being sent to a psychiatric hospital, seeing loved ones turn into zombies due to meds, and so on). I know that every once in a while, when I come across something like that unwarned, I get depressed and overwhelmed, and I have to back-button hard and spend the next half hour doing something to lift my spirits up again - and that's a very mild reaction...

Re: NF2

[identity profile] leafing.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, that makes a hell of a lot more sense.
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Re: NF2

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh yeah I have a mental illness and I don't think that's rude at all

Re: NF2

[identity profile] leafing.livejournal.com 2011-04-24 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
An anon just explained what that actually means and now I feel silly.

NF1, NF2

(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
NF1: That's an interesting idea! More practical than just posting anon, but without having to post "as myself"...

NF2: If it didn't happen to you, then it can't happen to anyone else, huh? Whatever.

NF2

(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't really get it either, til I got one. Well I don't know if its a "trigger" so much as a set of parameters that induces a panic attack over what happened. It's so dumb too, like my emotional brain hijacks my rational brain and I know logically that nothing's wrong but my subconscious thinks I'm in danger and just freaks.

NF2

(Anonymous) 2011-04-23 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sort of the same. I was sexually abused as a child and it's seriously affected my adult life in ways I'm only now starting to recognize, I watched family members get physically and emotionally abused for years on end, I've known people with addictions that have broken my heart by watching them fall apart, the list goes on.

But I don't have any triggers (I only like to have D/s warned for because I can only read it if it's done within the context of a relationship because, otherwise, I feel like fic misses the actual point of a D/s)

But just because I DON'T HAVE THEM doesn't mean other people don't. And it doesn't mean that they haven't DEALT with their experiences, it might mean that they have moved on and dealt in the best way possible for their life but don't like to be reminded of the negative experiences. Or maybe, if it's someone who hasn't experienced these things, they are just very empathetic (which is a GOOD thing if you want to, you know, be a member of society and not be a heinous bitch) and FEEL things very strongly, which can be a pain in the ass if you're that person but isn't actually a bad thing.

I don't mean to get preachy (or to write a whole book in this comment), but I think you're discounting a lot of the human experience that you don't understand by saying triggers are BS or looking down on those that have them. Maybe it's because you've known too many "fandom police" types that don't have these experience but get all uppity...but even they're usually just trying to look out for others. I think you need to work on YOUR empathy a bit.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
We need a macro for "your experience =/= everyone else's"

(Anonymous) 2011-04-24 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
And a fandom secrets pamphlet for it.

NF2

[identity profile] oflittlebrain.livejournal.com 2011-04-24 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Is it THAT hard to imagine that some people experience things differently than you? Seriously?

Re: NF2

[identity profile] oberongeiger.livejournal.com 2011-04-24 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
Lol.

I think for a lot of people, it really is. Have you seen the world around us? Honestly.

In my experience, MOST PEOPLE hate the attitude of "I CAN'T FATHOM ANYONE THINKING DIFFERENT FROM ME!"

(Anonymous) 2011-04-24 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2011-04-24 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
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