[ SECRET POST #1575 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1575 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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TRIGGER WARNING FOR SEXUAL/EMOTIONAL ABUSE

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TRIGGER WARNING FOR INCEST, RAPE

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 132 secrets from Secret Submission Post #225.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

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[radio-nurse.livejournal.com]

It's just as bad to have a lot of people pointing out hateful language as it is to have a lot of people using hateful language.

Uh. Okay.

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[(Anonymous)]

Yes it is. And it's not pointing out, it's attacking. Over trivial bullshit.

And to clarify, someone actually using hateful language =/= OMG HE HAS A CRUSH THAT HE FINDS ATTRACTIVE HOW DARE YOU YOU CHAUVINISTIC PIG YOU ONLY THINK WOMEN ARE OBJECTS!!!

And I've been watching this for ten years now. I love the LJ community, but seriously. Calm the fuck down. It makes people with reason and sense want to pull their hair out.

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[(Anonymous)]

did you read the fucking OP bc they make it very clear they think hateful language and slurs are totally okay and everyone should use them and anyone who dislikes them is just butthurt

also this reads like a textbook strawman jsyk

unless you can provide some links to someone raging at a man for admitting he finds a woman attractive - not for objectifying her, just for finding her attractive - shut the fuck up and go away

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[(Anonymous)]

THANK YOU.

If I had a quarter for every time someone got upset over non-issues with regard to women in fandom (especially with regard to slash fics), I'd be able to pay off the national debt, buy Microsoft, and still have a pool full of money, Scrooge McDuck style.

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[(Anonymous)]

or maybe

you're just a misogynist that thinks anyone who gets upset about sexism is a whiny bitch who needs to calm down

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[(Anonymous)]

you can be a feminist while still having reason and sanity.

whiny bitches sometimes do need to calm down.

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[(Anonymous)]

lol

i bet you think there's nothing misogynist in what you just said

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[(Anonymous)]

nope.

the only way I can describe the frothing insanity I sometimes see is by the words whiny (as in they whine) and the dictionary describes bitch as "a malicious, unpleasant, selfish person" which is how they act. So I find it a proper concise description.

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[(Anonymous)]

lol yeah sure

whatever you say trollypants

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[(Anonymous)]

Or maybe you need to go experience the world outside of your women's studies classroom. There's a lot more to the world than textbooks and angry professors honey.

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[(Anonymous)]

thank you for the condescending petname and characterization of me as a silly angry woman, it really helps to convince me that you're not misogynist in the slightest

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm a woman too, although I wish I wasn't, thanks to the fact that my gender is represented by psychotic rabid feminists. And jsyk, you are being a silly angry woman.

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[(Anonymous)]

You sound male

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[oflittlebrain.livejournal.com]

wow holy shit, everyone really sucks today

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[(Anonymous)]

For what it's worth, I consider myself a feminist and I'm concerned with jobs, salaries, etc. as opposed to whether someone called me a nasty name online. I don't have time to deal with that BS.

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[judo-creature.livejournal.com]

Huh. I wasn't aware that our gender was represented by feminists, psychotic and rabid or not. But the internet would never lie to me, so this must be true.

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[(Anonymous)]

If I had a quarter for every time someone dismissed valid issues wrt sexism and the portrayal of women in media and treatment of them in fandom, I'd be able to do all that too!

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm a pony.

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[(Anonymous)]

If it happens so often, surely you should be able to provide us with a few links to these silly non-issues being made into issues?

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[(Anonymous)]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding.

Just look around this fucking comm. There's people absolutely terrified to admit that they prefer slash because they're afraid of being labeled misogynists. Go look at any popular fandom community, there's going to be examples EVERYWHERE.

You've just got a bee up your twat because people are starting to see through this angry facade that's all over the place now.

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[(Anonymous)]

lol u

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[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, I don't want to go to the effort of digging through 10 years worth of bullshit. But dig around postsecret and any community where anon is enabled.

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[radio-nurse.livejournal.com]

I would disagree. Let's use myself as an example. I'm queer, and have experienced homophobia in various forms over the course of my life. Some homophobic language been used against me, so seeing hateful homophobic language can hurt.

This is a lot different from someone who is straight using a homophobic slur and being called on it from multiple people, even if they are being attacked personally and insulted without reason, which by the way I DO NOT condone because that is bullying. And the original homophobic language in question? Is not trivial to me.

And if they are not being attacked personally? You can't really make a case, it's not the same at all. Honestly, as far as I've observed most of the time it's not personal attacks or anything like the example you've used. When comments like that are made, like in this thread, they tend to be anons who seem to be trying to stir both sides into fights more than actually making a point.

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[(Anonymous)]

You know what? I can play that too.

I'll reveal myself somewhat. I am a lesbian. I am also of Mexican decent. I've been called a wetback (even though I am a native citizen, and my family has been citizens for three generations). I've been called a gringo by people from Mexico, a beaner dyke by my classmates. I know how language can hurt.

But jumping on every single fucking thing that comes up is simply tiring. Venting in feminism communities and other such things? That's fine. But LJ has to learn how to know when it's appropriate to take the activism jacket off. Sometimes I just want to read some fucking secrets.

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[cloud-riven.livejournal.com]

But it totally is! By making your sentiments regarding slurs and general unfairness on the internet apparent, you make people who already don't care about using slurs and okay with general unfairness upset because they have to scroll more.

That's totally the same thing as the intent to be hurtful.